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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>And sometimes you just need to get your wife/daughters to put the cap on properly. <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>☹</span> I found out that on my 2000 Ranger it takes 30 start cycles for it to go off. Now I own a scanner so I can reset any of my 3 vehicles. My 2013 TDi Jetta has had maybe three lights related to glow plugs/coils that seem to come up if my start sequence is whack. A no harm, no foul light. 140,000k and all it's needed is a battery. Well I did at 125K get a light that when I checked the code said the intake manifold needed to be replaced. However since I kept the gross polluter and had VW up/downgrade the software they extended the warranty so it was replaced gratis! Not bad for that much mileage. I would up losing about 2 mpg but I also got $6300 in cash between VW and Bosch. <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😊</span> I love the car. Hope to drive it till I drop. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: AT <at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of szabelski@wildblue.net<br>Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:09 PM<br>To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at@lists.antique-tractor.com><br>Subject: Re: [AT] Right to repair</p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sometimes all you need to do to fix the engine light, as related to the fuel system, is to get a new gas cap. If it isn’t sealing right it trips the system. Had to do this on a couple of cars a few years back.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Carl<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>meulenms@gmx.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: <a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>at@lists.antique-tractor.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:29:48 -0500 (EST)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [AT] Right to repair<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I had a trouble light come on, on my "new" 2010" Silverado. Turns out there is a sensor hooked to the fuel system that will sense if a whiff of fuel vapor seeps out of the system, for pollution/emission control; note this is not even enough to smell. Meanwhile while I am fueling up, and go to put the nozzle back in the holder, I get a small stream of fuel that spills on the ground. Do you know how much vapor must be in that stream? It was about a $200 sensor and according to GM can be caused by driving on dusty roads. Imagine that a pickup on a dusty road?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>A great use for black electrical tape, if it's running fine.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Mike M<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>On 11/26/2019 8:58 PM, Ralph Goff wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> On 2019-11-26 2:21 p.m., Phil Auten wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> The point of all this is that the weak link in the newer vehicles is <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> the electronics. They apparently do not understand "worst case design".<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> Phil in TX<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> I've said for some time now that the more electronics on a machine, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> the more likely there will be problems I can't fix. I just put in a <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> few hours on the hammer mill powered by the 66 year old Cockshutt 50 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> tractor. My old vehicles rarely have electrical problems but my "new"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> 97 Blazer has had a few bugs. Light switch almost left me without <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> headlights to drive home one night. Ignition switch failed and barely <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> got me home another time. The check engine light has been on for <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> years now but its just the gas cap or vent or some minor thing. ABS <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> light has been on a while but the brakes work fine. Of course I know <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> that they are not built to last now. It makes more sense economically <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> (for the companies) to have them wear/rust out and sell you a new one <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> every few years.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Ralph in Sask.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> AT mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>AT mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>AT mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>