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    <p>With my old Cats, the parts manual is more important than the
      operators..   I found an operators manual for my old Case 930CK
      last week.  There was some info in there I had never known, and I
      grew up with a 930CK.  I believe that is the one model that was
      the best tractor Case ever built.  <br>
      Cecil<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/25/2019 5:23 PM, Carl Gogol
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Mitchell & Steve<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I too am a big proponent of having all the
          manuals, especially the parts.  I have gotten out of the habit
          as it has become expensive and the newer stuff from Kubota
          rarely /or  doesn’t break in the non-professional hours I
          accumulate.  When I first started experiencing short term lack
          of power that temporarily healed when briefly stopping mowing
          I knew it was fuel.  I needed to go to DMV so I used a
          different Kubota dealer to get the filter than normally used. 
          I think my normal dealer  would have asked me which one I
          wanted or if I wanted them both.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Carl<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Manlius, NY<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com></a> <b>On Behalf
                Of </b>Mitchell Daly<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 25, 2019 4:22 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at@lists.antique-tractor.com></a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Update AT] 3 cyl diesel problems<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans
              MS";color:black">I try to go online and get complete
              manuals for all of my equipment. Handy having them as 
              pdf's so that I can print the pages that I need.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
              MS"">Mitch Daly<br>
              <a href="mailto:md31043@msn.com" moz-do-not-send="true">md31043@msn.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span
                  style="color:black"> AT <<a
                    href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
                  on behalf of Stephen Offiler <<a
                    href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">soffiler@gmail.com</a>><br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 25, 2019 2:54 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <<a
                    href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Update AT] 3 cyl diesel
                  problems</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">I find the little owner's manuals
                  these days are pretty poor.  But I also find many
                  manufacturers make the full service manual available
                  in PDF.   <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">SO<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 2:37 PM
                    Carl Gogol <<a href="mailto:cgogol1971@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">cgogol1971@gmail.com</a>>
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="xmsonormal">Steve O.<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="xmsonormal">My mower’s manual is light
                        on this information, no mention of number.  In
                        fact, it says something like “if engine loses
                        power, change the fuel filter”  no verbal hint
                        of more than one.  In scheduled service, it only
                        shows the location of the second filter. 
                        Admittedly, the first filter isn’t that hard to
                        find,  but you  do have to be looking for it.<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="xmsonormal">Carl<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="xmsonormal">Manlius, NY<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="xmsonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> AT <<a
                          href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Offiler<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 25, 2019 8:42 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion
                        Group <<a
                          href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Update AT] 3 cyl diesel
                        problems<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="xmsonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="xmsonormal">Does the manual contain
                          some kind of service schedule?  If so, does
                          the schedule mention both filters?<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="xmsonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="xmsonormal">SO<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="xmsonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="xmsonormal">On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at
                            8:37 AM Carl Gogol <<a
                              href="mailto:cgogol1971@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cgogol1971@gmail.com</a>>
                            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="xmsonormal">James.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="xmsonormal">Kubota engines with
                                2 fuel filters are not pervasive but
                                also not rare.  I have a 23 HP Kubota
                                front mower with two filters. One is
                                close to the injector pump and there is
                                also one not so obvious closer to the
                                fuel tank.  Eventually the not so
                                obvious one plugs and much more than one
                                hair must be pulled from the head.  I
                                personally didn’t pull enough hair and
                                thought I needed to call Kubota mobile
                                service which showed up with two
                                different filters.  One more lesson
                                learned.<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="xmsonormal">Carl Gogol<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="xmsonormal">Manlius NY<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="xmsonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> AT
                                    <<a
                                      href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Peck<br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 24,
                                    2019 8:11 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> '<a
                                      href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>'
                                    <<a
                                      href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Update AT]
                                    3 cyl diesel problems<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="xmsonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p
class="xgmail-m4668535124443539876gmail-m3371965227954013733msoplaintext">You
                                are saying this skid steer loader with
                                Kubota engine has two fuel filters<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p
class="xgmail-m4668535124443539876gmail-m3371965227954013733msoplaintext"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p
class="xgmail-m4668535124443539876gmail-m3371965227954013733msoplaintext">Ivan
                                AT List Member <<a
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                                No , I was told its a kubota in  a
                                bobcat excavator .   I helped change the
                                filter on the rear of the frame by the
                                access door but evidently theres a
                                second one .<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p
class="xgmail-m4668535124443539876gmail-m3371965227954013733msoplaintext"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p
class="xgmail-m4668535124443539876gmail-m3371965227954013733msoplaintext">James
                                AT List Member and advocate of
                                upgradeable tractor vocational training
                                <<a
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                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</a>;
                                 This is on a Yanmar engine?<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p
class="xgmail-m4668535124443539876gmail-m3371965227954013733msoplaintext"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p
class="xgmail-m4668535124443539876gmail-m3371965227954013733msoplaintext">Ivan
                                AT List Member <<a
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style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ivancou@atlanticbb.net</span></a>
                                ; They got the excavator  running again
                                , tracing the problem back to inline 
                                screen in the fuel  system . They
                                rigged  a auxiliary tank and it ran well
                                so they loaded  it onto their trailer
                                and took it back to the shop . Now that
                                its  inside time to tear it apart and
                                remove the tank and lines to clean  them
                                out .     Just prior to this happening 
                                Mathew had bought an old  fuel tank off
                                a neighbor and set it outside the shop ,
                                previously they  had been using plastic
                                cans .      Ivan<o:p></o:p></p>
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