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    I have tons of Box Elder, total crap trees, might try to cable them
    high and pull them out with my neighbors 4440, if mine won't do it.<br>
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    Mike M <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/6/2019 5:37 PM, Carl Gogol wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">After bush
            hogging the smaller stuff I have cleared acres of scrub
            brush by chainsaw and big burn piles.  Cutting the stumps
            level to the ground has been hard on chains, but leaves no
            holes in the ground.  Works well for pasture.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Grass perks
            right up after the shade is removed.  Species encountered
            are Hawthorne, Honeysuckle, Black Cherry, ash and Box
            Elder.  Some stumps are cut a second time a year or so later
            as they miraculously rise a few inches out of the ground. 
            Quite a bit of work, but no dozer required.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Carl <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Manlius,NY<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                style="color:windowtext"> AT
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com></a> <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Mike M<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 6, 2019 2:12 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Osages to maples<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Wow Dean,
          that's impressive! I suspect the trees you left will really
          thrive now that they get their full sun and nutrients. 
          Question for you, I have an area of property that i would like
          to clear. It's thick like a jungle just to the right of your
          M. How did you remove the roots? Did you cut the brush first,
          and then tackle the roots, or were you able to pull out clumps
          at a time.<br>
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          Thanks,<br>
          Mike M<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 11/6/2019 4:02 AM, Dean Vinson wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Mike,
              sorry about that.   Both of the photos I’d previously
              attached were looking generally southward but from
              different vantage points.   </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Here’s a
              collage of Google aerial photos to hopefully help explain
              a little better.   My earlier 2014 picture was taken from
              down near where the big walnut tree is, but the 2019
              picture was taken from way up close to the house (farther
              north than the osage bramble had ever been).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dean</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                  style="color:windowtext"> AT [<a
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                    moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike M<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 5, 2019 9:52 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a
                    href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Osages to maples</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Dean,
            could you clarify  what direction we're looking in, were the
            two larger trees buried in the brambles? I'm terrible at 
            deciphering directions. Where is the Farmall parked in
            comparison to the old and new picture?<br>
            <br>
            Thanks,<br>
            Mike M<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 11/5/2019 6:52 PM, Dean Vinson
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">About five years ago I started clearing
              out an old osage orange hedgerow, maybe 150 yards long,
              that hadn’t been tended in many decades.   Lots of time
              with the chainsaw, lots of bonfires, lots of work with the
              Super M dragging logs and pulling roots and hauling
              firewood, lots of work with the JD 620 and rear blade
              grading and smoothing.   Yesterday I had a crew plant
              eight new red maple trees on the same line where the osage
              trees had been, and this afternoon I got the Super M out
              again to haul trashcans full of water back to them.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">The top half of the attached photo is
              the 2014 view, showing one of my first bonfires as I began
              clearing out the osage and honeysuckle and briars.   My
              goal back then was just to clear out some breathing space
              around a nice mature walnut tree that I’d discovered
              earlier that year after noticing its top sticking up above
              the canopy of the older but shorter osage trees.   It’s
              not visible in the photo but it’d be to the right of the
              bonfire.   After a couple of years of occasional trimming
              and cleanup and thinning out, I set my sights on removing
              the hedgerow completely.   (There’s also another one, but
              I’m just cleaning it up and will keep many of the big
              trees).<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">The bottom half of the attached photo
              is the view from a few hours ago.   The mass of trees and
              brambles from the top photo had been just to the left of
              the little gravel lane behind where the tractor is now
              sitting.   The tall trees behind the tractor had all
              managed to survive despite being engulfed by the sprawling
              osages; the dark one in the middle is the big walnut I’d
              first started clearing out around five years earlier.
                 Interesting that those trees all lean slightly away
              from where the osages had been.   The new maples, hardly
              visible since they’re small, are dead on the centerline of
              the original hedgerow.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Will be interesting to see how the new
              trees do over time.   It’s been fun, sort of, plugging
              away at that scraggly old hedgerow over the years, and
              darn nice to have a couple old tractors to help.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Dean Vinson<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Saint Paris, Ohio<o:p></o:p></p>
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