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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Ahh, it finally came through!!!  Differential brakes</div><div><br></div>
        
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                    On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 02:17:40 PM CDT, partzpicker@yahoo.com <partzpicker@yahoo.com> wrote:
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        <div dir="ltr">My pretty sure guess is a brake for each wheel.  What's the official name, Dean?</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
        
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                    On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 02:58:45 AM CDT, deanvp@att.net <deanvp@att.net> wrote:
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                <div><div id="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692"><div><div class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692WordSection1"><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal">Interesting tractor which was made for a very short period of time.  Since we are seeing who can pee the farthest, what was a very desirable standard feature on the 1936 JD AO that was also available on the 1936 AR as an option which sometimes makes them hard to  identify correctly ? </p><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal">  </p><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal">Dean VP</p><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290</p><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal">  </p><div class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692yqt8668186329" id="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692yqt52921"><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT <at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Moe Fretz<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:37 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at@lists.antique-tractor.com><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] 1970's farm equipment</p><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal">  </p><div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">Tractor related?????????</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">Some how we've gone from Antique Tractors.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">To discussing (bragging) about all</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">the engineering courses we've taken or should have.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">To offshore manufacturing quality.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">To the help line accents.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">And now we are into computer IT stuff we know about.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">Could have, would have installed. up grading, what have you.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">Not much tractor related stuff in the last few days.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">My 1936 John Deere AO qualifies as an antique.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">It does have any software needing to be upgraded.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">No help line available or needed.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">And you don't need to be an engineer to figure how it works.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><br clear="none">$-------&<br clear="none">Moe F<span class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">.</span></span></p></div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Ontario, Canada</p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal">  </p></div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal">  </p><div><div><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:55 AM ustonThomas Mehrkam <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:tmehrkam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g and <br clear="none">>> finally I<br clear="none">>> had enough.?? But couldn't remember how to fix it. Google came to the <br clear="none">>> rescue.<br clear="none">>> In Win 10. one has to get into File Explorer, view, options, change <br clear="none">>> options<br clear="none">>> to get to that setting.?? How in the hell I found that the first time is<br clear="none">>> beyond me?? But all is now cool again.???? Simple but frustrating.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Dean VP<br clear="none">>> Snohomish, WA 98290<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> -----Original Message-----<br clear="none">>> From: AT <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>> On Behalf Of James Peck<br clear="none">>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 11:18 AM<br clear="none">>> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <br clear="none">>> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br clear="none">>> Subject: Re: [AT] 1970's farm equipment<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> I worked for a GM division a little in the late sixties. The focus <br clear="none">>> then was<br clear="none">>> on making all components so they ended their life at 10 years. The items<br clear="none">>> that lasted longer were made too well.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> [Henry Miller] The 1970s when efficiency experts ruled every thing <br clear="none">>> with the<br clear="none">>> bean counters. Cut cost and quality were number one. The auto world <br clear="none">>> had it<br clear="none">>> worse than most because they suddenly had to meet emissions rules <br clear="none">>> that they<br clear="none">>> didn't really know how to do and so rube Goldberg contraptions were <br clear="none">>> designed<br clear="none">>> to that standard with predictable results.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Modern just in time is often very inefficient, but the cost savings<br clear="none">>> elsewhere make it vastly more cost effective. Consumers have also <br clear="none">>> caught on<br clear="none">>> to the idea that quality is sometimes worth paying for. Where the above<br clear="none">>> doesn't apply is a race to the bottom that we can't win. China, like <br clear="none">>> Taiwan<br clear="none">>> and Japan before them is starting to drop out of the game. Africa is<br clear="none">>> probably next in my opinion: Vietnam and Pakistan play a bit but they <br clear="none">>> are<br clear="none">>> not large enough and to beat China and they are not far behind China <br clear="none">>> into<br clear="none">>> getting out of that hole. India could win for a while, but they have <br clear="none">>> a lot<br clear="none">>> of smart people who know how to make quality (training on the job in <br clear="none">>> the US<br clear="none">>> or Europe) and would rather skip the cheap junk period.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> .<br clear="none">>> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">>> AT mailing list<br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p><div id="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692gmail-m_8200918532328447902yqtfd22869"><p class="ydp60228490yiv9217455217ydp81d09309yiv2086245692MsoNormal"><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">>> AT mailing list<br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">> AT mailing list<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">AT mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" 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