<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">That person does not ring a bell.   There is a local guy that owns a fairly successful nursery in the area, and he had a bunch of John Deeres.   A few of his tractors are in one of my books.<div><br></div><div>There are a group of brothers who own a successful oil company and large string of convenient stores. But they are big Farmall collectors. They have very few if any John Deere‘s.  One of them  lives very close to me and I see his Farmalls out all the time.</div><div><br></div><div>So I am not familiar with the grocery store owner. </div><div><br></div><div>I worked for and bought for Tommy Teague of Salem Leasing.  He sold out a few years after I left his employ. I was invited to the auction but I just couldn’t bring myself to go.  He had 125-150 John Deere’s; the majority of which were pretty valuable.  I think he hung on to a few so only about 100 l-125 were sold.   I probably originally bought 30 of them, Bill(the other guy) probably bought 40, and Tom and his brother bought the rest.  I think the results of the auction are still out on the Internet somewhere. </div><div><br></div><div>Spencer</div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 23, 2019, at 7:27 PM, John Hall <jtchall@nc.rr.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
  
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    That collector wasn't by chance associated with a grocery store
    chain was he? There was one not too far from you that supposedly had
    a building full of green tractors, or so I was told 25 years ago by
    a fellow at the Pfafftown show--said he saw them in person.<br>
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    John Hall<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/23/2019 7:00 PM, Spencer Yost
      wrote:<br>
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      I am pretty sure the orchard fenders were not even standard on the
      AO(and also an option for the AR at least early on), so I don’t
      believe it was fenders.
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      <div>The brakes others mentioned I didn’t  even recall as
        different  but sounds likely.  I was thinking exhaust  but that
        seems too inconsequential and so easily modified no one would
        use that for definitive ID anyways.</div>
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      <div>Inquiring minds want to know!  I’m holding off Googling until
        I hear the answer.</div>
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      <div>When I was buying a lot of John Deere tractors for a
        collector I worked for, me and the other guy doing the buying
        buying could - between the two of us - tell you 95% of
        everything you ever needed to know about John Deere tractors and
        their subtle differences, idiosyncrasies and history. Now I
        doubt I remember even half of it. Funny how it just slips away
        when you stop using it.</div>
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      <div>Spencer<br>
        <br>
        <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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          <blockquote type="cite">On Oct 23, 2019, at 3:58 AM,
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:deanvp@att.net">deanvp@att.net</a> wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Interesting tractor which was made
                for a very short period of time.  Since we are seeing
                who can pee the farthest, what was a very desirable
                standard feature on the 1936 JD AO that was also
                available on the 1936 AR as an option which sometimes
                makes them hard to  identify correctly ? <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Dean VP<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com></a> <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Moe Fretz<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:37 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at@lists.antique-tractor.com></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] 1970's farm equipment<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">Tractor
                      related?????????<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">Some
                      how we've gone from Antique Tractors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">To
                      discussing (bragging) about all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">the
                      engineering courses we've taken or should have.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">To
                      offshore manufacturing quality.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">To
                      the help line accents.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">And
                      now we are into computer IT stuff we know about.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">Could
                      have, would have installed. up grading, what have
                      you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">Not
                      much tractor related stuff in the last few days.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">My
                      1936 John Deere AO qualifies as an antique.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">It
                      does have any software needing to be upgraded.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">No
                      help line available or needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">And
                      you don't need to be an engineer to figure how it
                      works.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                $-------&<br>
                                Moe F<span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#A64D79">.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                Ontario, Canada<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:55 AM
                    ustonThomas Mehrkam <<a href="mailto:tmehrkam@sbcglobal.net" moz-do-not-send="true">tmehrkam@sbcglobal.net</a>>
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">In
                    the 70s we all had to take corporate value
                    engineering classes. "How to engineer all the value
                    out." Some people did not have enough sense it
                    ignore the BS.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Sent from
                        Yahoo Mail on Android</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 7:08 AM, Thomas Mehrkam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Roboto;color:#6D00F6"><<a href="mailto:tmehrkam@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tmehrkam@sbcglobal.net</a>>
                            wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Windows 10 convinced me it
                        was time to retire.<br>
                        <br>
                        I developed software mainly for Unix and Linux
                        with some Vax VMS?? DX10 <br>
                        one of T.Is systems and many real time OS for
                        Motorola 68000, TI 9900, <br>
                        Power PC etc.?? Much of the early work in
                        machine language. With some <br>
                        Windoze thrown in. XP and 7 was ok.?? Almost
                        great compared to XP.<br>
                        <br>
                        XP convinced me it was time to retire. The worse
                        of Microsoft's crap <br>
                        OS's. Even worse than writing assembly and Cobal
                        for Univac 1108 <br>
                        systems. :-{?? We built a Seismic Acquisition
                        system that could record <br>
                        data from 40,000 stations at a 2MS sample
                        rate.?? XP brought that to a <br>
                        stand still. The network stack sucked we went
                        down to maybe 5,000 <br>
                        stations. :-{<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        On 10/21/2019 11:45 AM, Phil Auten wrote:<br>
                        > I usually need to write stuff like that
                        down, and I am/was a <br>
                        > computer/IT tech. Now, where'd I put my
                        pencil?<br>
                        ><br>
                        > I've been out of the computer biz,except
                        for fixing my own, since 2011 <br>
                        > and I am amazed how much it has changed
                        since then. I have two working <br>
                        > computers, both laptops. The one I am on
                        now is the newest and it is <br>
                        > running Vista (yuck). The other one is
                        about a 2006 model and runs XP. <br>
                        > That one I need to redo and load Linux so
                        it will keep up.<br>
                        ><br>
                        > Phil in TX<br>
                        ><br>
                        ><br>
                        > On 10/20/2019 11:39 PM, <a href="mailto:deanvp@att.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">deanvp@att.net</a>
                        wrote:<br>
                        >> James,<br>
                        >><br>
                        >> ?? Every time I go shopping at the
                        local Costco I marvel at how many<br>
                        >> foreigners we have here in WA?? I'm
                        sure driven by the High Tech <br>
                        >> industries<br>
                        >> like Microsoft and Amazon. It used to
                        be the Oriental's that were<br>
                        >> predominate. Now it seems to be East
                        Indians. I'm sure much of our <br>
                        >> technical<br>
                        >> knowledge is eventually ending up back
                        in India.?? However, that <br>
                        >> doesn't seem<br>
                        >> to apply to those who work in the
                        technical support groups we call <br>
                        >> for help.<br>
                        >> I have completely given up on calling
                        any kind of help line for <br>
                        >> anything.<br>
                        >> First because they really don't know
                        very much and secondly their accent<br>
                        >> combined with my loss of hearing makes
                        understanding them almost <br>
                        >> impossible.<br>
                        >> I will work Google search until I find
                        the answer I'm looking for. I <br>
                        >> just<br>
                        >> went through that recently.?? Some time
                        in the past I changed from double<br>
                        >> click to single click file opening on
                        my mouse. Long enough ago I had<br>
                        >> forgotten how I did it.?? For me the
                        obvious place to look was on the <br>
                        >> setup<br>
                        >> of the mouse. Wrong.?? I put up with
                        the change far too long and <br>
                        >> finally I<br>
                        >> had enough.?? But couldn't remember how
                        to fix it. Google came to the <br>
                        >> rescue.<br>
                        >> In Win 10. one has to get into File
                        Explorer, view, options, change <br>
                        >> options<br>
                        >> to get to that setting.?? How in the
                        hell I found that the first time is<br>
                        >> beyond me?? But all is now cool
                        again.???? Simple but frustrating.<br>
                        >><br>
                        >> Dean VP<br>
                        >> Snohomish, WA 98290<br>
                        >><br>
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                        On Behalf Of James Peck<br>
                        >> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 11:18 AM<br>
                        >> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion
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                        >> Subject: Re: [AT] 1970's farm equipment<br>
                        >><br>
                        >> I worked for a GM division a little in
                        the late sixties. The focus <br>
                        >> then was<br>
                        >> on making all components so they ended
                        their life at 10 years. The items<br>
                        >> that lasted longer were made too well.<br>
                        >><br>
                        >> [Henry Miller] The 1970s when
                        efficiency experts ruled every thing <br>
                        >> with the<br>
                        >> bean counters. Cut cost and quality
                        were number one. The auto world <br>
                        >> had it<br>
                        >> worse than most because they suddenly
                        had to meet emissions rules <br>
                        >> that they<br>
                        >> didn't really know how to do and so
                        rube Goldberg contraptions were <br>
                        >> designed<br>
                        >> to that standard with predictable
                        results.<br>
                        >><br>
                        >> Modern just in time is often very
                        inefficient, but the cost savings<br>
                        >> elsewhere make it vastly more cost
                        effective. Consumers have also <br>
                        >> caught on<br>
                        >> to the idea that quality is sometimes
                        worth paying for. Where the above<br>
                        >> doesn't apply is a race to the bottom
                        that we can't win. China, like <br>
                        >> Taiwan<br>
                        >> and Japan before them is starting to
                        drop out of the game. Africa is<br>
                        >> probably next in my opinion: Vietnam
                        and Pakistan play a bit but they <br>
                        >> are<br>
                        >> not large enough and to beat China and
                        they are not far behind China <br>
                        >> into<br>
                        >> getting out of that hole. India could
                        win for a while, but they have <br>
                        >> a lot<br>
                        >> of smart people who know how to make
                        quality (training on the job in <br>
                        >> the US<br>
                        >> or Europe) and would rather skip the
                        cheap junk period.<br>
                        >><br>
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