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<div>Thinking about the individual turning brakes on the AO, vs the service brake on the AR?</div>
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<div class="yiv6291160334MsoNormal">Interesting tractor which was made for a very short period of time. Since we are seeing who can pee the farthest, what was a very desirable standard feature on the 1936 JD AO that was also available on the 1936 AR as an option which sometimes makes them hard to identify correctly ? </div>
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<div class="yiv6291160334MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT <at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Moe Fretz<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:37 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at@lists.antique-tractor.com><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] 1970's farm equipment</div>
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<div class="yiv6291160334MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">Some how we've gone from Antique Tractors.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv6291160334MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">And now we are into computer IT stuff we know about.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv6291160334MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">Not much tractor related stuff in the last few days.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv6291160334MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">My 1936 John Deere AO qualifies as an antique.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv6291160334MsoNormal">Windows 10 convinced me it was time to retire.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I developed software mainly for Unix and Linux with some Vax VMS?? DX10 <br clear="none">one of T.Is systems and many real time OS for Motorola 68000, TI 9900, <br clear="none">Power PC etc.?? Much of the early work in machine language. With some <br clear="none">Windoze thrown in. XP and 7 was ok.?? Almost great compared to XP.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">XP convinced me it was time to retire. The worse of Microsoft's crap <br clear="none">OS's. Even worse than writing assembly and Cobal for Univac 1108 <br clear="none">systems. :-{?? We built a Seismic Acquisition system that could record <br clear="none">data from 40,000 stations at a 2MS sample rate.?? XP brought that to a <br clear="none">stand still. The network stack sucked we went down to maybe 5,000 <br clear="none">stations. :-{<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 10/21/2019 11:45 AM, Phil Auten wrote:<br clear="none">> I usually need to write stuff like that down, and I am/was a <br clear="none">> computer/IT tech. Now, where'd I put my pencil?<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I've been out of the computer biz,except for fixing my own, since 2011 <br clear="none">> and I am amazed how much it has changed since then. I have two working <br clear="none">> computers, both laptops. The one I am on now is the newest and it is <br clear="none">> running Vista (yuck). The other one is about a 2006 model and runs XP. <br clear="none">> That one I need to redo and load Linux so it will keep up.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Phil in TX<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On 10/20/2019 11:39 PM, <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:deanvp@att.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:deanvp@att.net">deanvp@att.net</a> wrote:<br clear="none">>> James,<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> ?? Every time I go shopping at the local Costco I marvel at how many<br clear="none">>> foreigners we have here in WA?? I'm sure driven by the High Tech <br clear="none">>> industries<br clear="none">>> like Microsoft and Amazon. It used to be the Oriental's that were<br clear="none">>> predominate. Now it seems to be East Indians. I'm sure much of our <br clear="none">>> technical<br clear="none">>> knowledge is eventually ending up back in India.?? However, that <br clear="none">>> doesn't seem<br clear="none">>> to apply to those who work in the technical support groups we call <br clear="none">>> for help.<br clear="none">>> I have completely given up on calling any kind of help line for <br clear="none">>> anything.<br clear="none">>> First because they really don't know very much and secondly their accent<br clear="none">>> combined with my loss of hearing makes understanding them almost <br clear="none">>> impossible.<br clear="none">>> I will work Google search until I find the answer I'm looking for. I <br clear="none">>> just<br clear="none">>> went through that recently.?? Some time in the past I changed from double<br clear="none">>> click to single click file opening on my mouse. Long enough ago I had<br clear="none">>> forgotten how I did it.?? For me the obvious place to look was on the <br clear="none">>> setup<br clear="none">>> of the mouse. Wrong.?? I put up with the change far too long and <br clear="none">>> finally I<br clear="none">>> had enough.?? But couldn't remember how to fix it. Google came to the <br clear="none">>> rescue.<br clear="none">>> In Win 10. one has to get into File Explorer, view, options, change <br clear="none">>> options<br clear="none">>> to get to that setting.?? How in the hell I found that the first time is<br clear="none">>> beyond me?? But all is now cool again.???? Simple but frustrating.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Dean VP<br clear="none">>> Snohomish, WA 98290<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> -----Original Message-----<br clear="none">>> From: AT <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>> On Behalf Of James Peck<br clear="none">>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 11:18 AM<br clear="none">>> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <br clear="none">>> <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br clear="none">>> Subject: Re: [AT] 1970's farm equipment<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> I worked for a GM division a little in the late sixties. The focus <br clear="none">>> then was<br clear="none">>> on making all components so they ended their life at 10 years. The items<br clear="none">>> that lasted longer were made too well.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> [Henry Miller] The 1970s when efficiency experts ruled every thing <br clear="none">>> with the<br clear="none">>> bean counters. Cut cost and quality were number one. The auto world <br clear="none">>> had it<br clear="none">>> worse than most because they suddenly had to meet emissions rules <br clear="none">>> that they<br clear="none">>> didn't really know how to do and so rube Goldberg contraptions were <br clear="none">>> designed<br clear="none">>> to that standard with predictable results.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Modern just in time is often very inefficient, but the cost savings<br clear="none">>> elsewhere make it vastly more cost effective. Consumers have also <br clear="none">>> caught on<br clear="none">>> to the idea that quality is sometimes worth paying for. Where the above<br clear="none">>> doesn't apply is a race to the bottom that we can't win. China, like <br clear="none">>> Taiwan<br clear="none">>> and Japan before them is starting to drop out of the game. Africa is<br clear="none">>> probably next in my opinion: Vietnam and Pakistan play a bit but they <br clear="none">>> are<br clear="none">>> not large enough and to beat China and they are not far behind China <br clear="none">>> into<br clear="none">>> getting out of that hole. India could win for a while, but they have <br clear="none">>> a lot<br clear="none">>> of smart people who know how to make quality (training on the job in <br clear="none">>> the US<br clear="none">>> or Europe) and would rather skip the cheap junk period.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> .<br clear="none">>> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">>> AT mailing list<br clear="none">>> <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br clear="none">>> <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></div>
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