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    <p>My 2011 Chevy 2500 Silverado has one. <br>
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    <p>Cecil<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/2019 9:40 AM, Joe Hazewinkel
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      My 2017 Ram 2500 has an hour meter screen that shows engine run
      time and idle time.  This may be unique to the Diesel engine, or
      just newer trucks just thought it was interesting.
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      <div>Enjoy, Joe<br>
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          On Sep 18, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Gunnells, Brad R <<a
            href="mailto:brad-gunnells@uiowa.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">brad-gunnells@uiowa.edu</a>>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Ok, this is going to sound like a silly
              question/statement. I’d never heard of a hour meter in a
              truck. Is this in a standard pickup? If so, when roughly
              did that start and how do you access it? Would my 2002
              F250 have such a thing?<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Brad<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">AT <<a
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                  on behalf of Stephen Offiler <<a
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                    moz-do-not-send="true">soffiler@gmail.com</a>><br>
                  <b>Reply-To: </b>Antique group <<a
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                  <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 6:34 AM<br>
                  <b>To: </b>Antique group <<a
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                  <b>Subject: </b>[External] Re: [AT] Statistics In
                  Tractor Manufacturing Was Bicycle Program<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Jim, I keep forgetting to check the
                hourmeter in my truck, but my car has a direct readout
                of average MPH.  I record it and reset with every tank
                of fuel along with MPG data.  The overall average of
                just under 3 years and just over 40K miles is 35.5 MPH. 
                Turns out I'm remarkably average.  I wear size Medium
                suits off the rack too.
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Steve O.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 10:52 PM
                  Jim Becker <<a href="mailto:mr.jebecker@gmail.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">mr.jebecker@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Several
                            years ago, my brother and I were comparing
                            odometer readings on our trucks.  My truck
                            was older and had a lot more miles.  Then we
                            checked hours.  His had a bunch more.  His
                            truck use was probably pretty typical,
                            including a fair amount of local driving. 
                            As I recall, he averaged close to the
                            expected 35.  I rarely use mine to just
                            drive around on short errands.  Most of the
                            mileage is on longer trips.  Earlier today,
                            it turned over 100,000 miles and is just
                            over 2,000 hours.  The average is 49 mph. 
                            Since my highway speed is usually 70 or
                            more, it seems it would be tough to get a
                            long term average much higher.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Back in
                            the good old days, hour meters were
                            typically grounded through an oil pressure
                            switch.  If the engine wasn’t actually
                            running and producing oil pressure, the hour
                            meter wouldn’t clock time even with the
                            switch on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Jim
                            Becker<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  Mike M
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Sent:</span></b><span
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                                  Monday, September 16, 2019 3:08 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  Re: [AT] Statistics In Tractor
                                  Manufacturing Was Bicycle Program<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I have
                            a Scag zero turn that I bought new, I put
                            about 350 hours on it over the course of
                            several years.  When I parked it this last
                            fall, I accidentally left the key on, so
                            when I went to start it this Spring I had
                            3500 hours on it. Fortunately my daughter
                            works at the dealer so I was able to buy a
                            new one. 
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                            Mike M<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  Stephen Offiler
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                                style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
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                                  Monday, September 16, 2019 7:32 AM</span><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
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                                  Re: [AT] Statistics In Tractor
                                  Manufacturing</span><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">For
                              the record, in automotive engineering, the
                              conversion between engine hours and road
                              miles is usually taken to be 35, not 60. 
                              I've also seen 33 used.  It's a broad
                              approximation of course  Vehicles used
                              extensively on the highway will be
                              somewhat higher, and vehicles used
                              extensively in heavy traffic/city
                              conditions will be somewhat lower.  It
                              would be exceptionally rare to find any
                              roadgoing vehicle averaging 60mph.
                              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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