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    <p>got it <br>
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    <p>Cecil</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/15/2019 10:38 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:k7jdj@aol.com">k7jdj@aol.com</a>
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          style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original
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          From: Cecil Bearden <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"><crbearden@copper.net></a><br>
          To: at <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at@lists.antique-tractor.com></a><br>
          Sent: Sun, Sep 15, 2019 8:15 pm<br>
          Subject: Re: [AT] Statistics In Tractor Manufacturing Was
          Bicycle Program<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Probably not, and the mileage on the title of
            an auto or truck is <br clear="none">
            nothing that can be relied on...   I used to be able to tell
            by the wear <br clear="none">
            on floorboards, rust, paint scratches etc if a trucks
            mileage was <br clear="none">
            right.  Tractors are a different animal.  Usually just
            change the tires <br clear="none">
            and if repainted, change the hoses and belts, new seat and
            cab interior <br clear="none">
            and it is a new tractor.<br clear="none">
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            Cecil<br clear="none">
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            On 9/15/2019 8:36 PM, Jack wrote:<br clear="none">
            > Tractors are not titled. Automobiles and trucks are.
            When you sell an auto, you record the mileage at time of
            sale and your signature. Is it even illegal to alter the
            hour meter on a tractor?<br clear="none">
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            > -----Original Message-----<br clear="none">
            > From: AT <<a shape="rect"
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            On Behalf Of Cecil Bearden<br clear="none">
            > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 7:33 PM<br
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            > To: <a shape="rect"
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            > Subject: Re: [AT] Statistics In Tractor Manufacturing
            Was Bicycle Program<br clear="none">
            ><br clear="none">
            > The New Holland Money Pit is what it is because
            somewhere in its history the hour meter was turned back. 
            New tires were installed and it was made to look like a 5 yr
            old tractor with about 200 hrs per year.<br clear="none">
            > Cecil<br clear="none">
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            > On 9/14/2019 10:26 AM, James Peck wrote:<br
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            >> Some years ago I did participate in an academic
            Statistical Quality Control course. Much of the course
            involved the Weibull Distribution. If I remember correctly,
            the Weibull Curve predicted the lifespan of a manufactured
            assembly such as a tractor.  It appears to be a gift from
            the mathematicians.<br clear="none">
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            >> The same distribution probably predicts that
            Cecil’s New Holland money pit will continue to be so and
            will suffer an early demise.<br clear="none">
            >><br clear="none">
            >> [Stephen Offiler] I never took a whole semester of
            Statistics.  Instead, we had a course called Engineering
            Experimentation, which was heavy on experiment design and
            statistical data analysis.  That gave me a very good
            appreciation for the practical application of statistics. 
             Out in the real world, on-the-job training programs in
            quality control principles in manufacturing (Deming, Juran,
            Lean Six Sigma) continued to solidify the practical
            applications.<br clear="none">
            >><br clear="none">
            >> [Cecil Bearden] Steve: I nearly flunked statistics
            I only passed because I was a graduating senior.  However, I
            did flunk Rocks & Clods 2124 and had to find another 4
            hours to graduate.   Then 35 years later I retire as a
            Geotechnical engineer designing foundations. !!!<br
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            >><br clear="none">
            >> [Stephen Offiler] I'm not sure if that is an
            interesting statistic, or simply predictable statistically. 
            All you just said is that a bell-curve distribution for
            2-year degrees overlaps a bell-curve distribution for 4-year
            degrees.<br clear="none">
            >><br clear="none">
            >> [ James Peck] The interesting statistic is that
            some technical 2 year programs have higher starting incomes
            than many 4 year degree programs. People who complete such a
            program can later take a 2+2 program to get a four year
            degree if they choose.<br clear="none">
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