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    <p>Steve:</p>
    <p>I nearly flunked statistics I only passed because I was a
      graduating senior.  However, I did flunk Rocks & Clods 2124
      and had to find another 4 hours to graduate.   Then 35 years later
      I retire as a Geotechnical engineer designing foundations. !!!  <br>
      Cecil<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/10/2019 10:59 AM, Stephen Offiler
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      <div dir="ltr">I'm not sure if that is an interesting statistic,
        or simply predictable statistically.  All you just said is that
        a bell-curve distribution for 2-year degrees overlaps a
        bell-curve distribution for 4-year degrees.  
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        <div>SO</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 10:39
          AM James Peck <<a href="mailto:jamesgpeck@hotmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The
          interesting statistic is that some technical 2 year programs
          have higher starting incomes than many 4 year degree programs.
          People who complete such a program can later take a 2+2
          program to get a four year degree if they choose.<br>
          <a
href="http://www.wlky.com/news/mayor-jctc-announce-manufacturing-jobs-initiative/30966584"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.wlky.com/news/mayor-jctc-announce-manufacturing-jobs-initiative/30966584</a><br>
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          James Peck]Yes, you would not likely get a job restoring
          tractors without any experience. Yet Honda is willing to hire
          people with no experience to maintain automobile manufacturing
          equipment if they have an Associates degree in Electronics. An
          ASET is somewhat vocational training. Whether a bicycle
          training program would get you hired with no experience is
          pushing it. I wonder what data they have supporting that
          hiring criteria.<br>
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          <a
            href="https://hondana.taleo.net/careersection/ah_ext/jobdetail.ftl"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://hondana.taleo.net/careersection/ah_ext/jobdetail.ftl</a>?<br>
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          As I understand it, the Japanese approach is to continuously
          train, evaluate, and recognize employees skill sets over an
          extended period of time.<br>
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          ]Brian VanDragt] I just don't see bicycles needing to be taken
          to a specialist with a fancy bicycle degree to get fixed.<br>
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