<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>Farmer:<br></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> Farmer,</div><div><br></div><div>I'm 5 days late but want to say I really enjoy the posts you make like this. You too, Cecil. And all the rest of you.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope the ATIS list is well archived somewhere because there is a real wealth of information shared by all it's members.</div><div><br></div><div>I still sorely miss George Willer and will never forget my visit with Herb Metz at his home.</div><div><br></div><div>I think I need to add Portland to my bucket list to meet you folks.</div><div><br></div><div>Warren </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><br>
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<div>I find this discussion a little surprising... I was taught
in about the 6th grade (in a small rural school in the 1950's)
that what we all call buffalo are really scientifically true
bison and that early explorers were just guessing as to what
they were. It was much like them thinking at first that this
was the far side of the world and them calling everybody
"Indians". The name just stuck and so did buffalo.</div>
<div>Even back when I was in school it was understood that most
people would probably always continue to call them buffalo in
casual conservation and I still do. By the time I learned that
they were really bison I had already learned the words dog,
cat, cow etc. and bison was a strange sounding name to me. <br>
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<div>Languages are funny things... Always evolving but not
always in a good way. I have a few pet peeves from more recent
years about how people butcher things. I watch a lot of DIY
stuff and keep saying (mostly to the TV screen) "No, that is
not ship-lap. Every old 8" board is not ship-lap!" or "No that
is not a "cinder block! It is either a cement block or a
concrete block... It is only a cinder block if it was produced
using cinders for the aggregate and very few of those are
being produced these days."</div>
<div>Rambling farther off track (not a cinder track). :-)<br>
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<div>When Diana and I got married in June 1963 we rented a small
house at the edge of town for a year and a half that was on a
full basement all made of actual cinder block. When that first
winter came along I got a real shock. The cinders were quite
coarse and the block walls were not even close to being air
tight. When the winter winds began to howl you could not heat
the basement. If you lit a candle (I really did) and held it
next to the west wall on a high wind day it would blow the
candle out.</div>
<div>Speaking of languages, we have become friends with a Greek
family who have a local gyro based restaurant (pronounced <span class="gmail-m_2812082207888056499gmail-lr_dct_ph gmail-m_2812082207888056499gmail-XpoqFe"><span>ˈyērō</span>)</span>.
Really nice family. We were eating there a day or two ago and
a lady and I believe her daughter sat a the booth behind me
and were chatting. I wasn't sure what language they were
speaking but it wasn't English. When things slowed down our
friends came out to visit with them and I realized that that
they had been chatting in Greek. It was a happy visit for the
4 of them and I had to chuckle a few times as they talked
listening to them as all 4 of them flip-flopped from Greek to
English over and over again. It was maybe about 60% Greek and
40% English. Our friends are quite good at English so it was
funny hearing the sudden shift from rapid fire Greek to a
perfectly enunciated full sentence or more in English then
instantly back to Greek. I can only assume that some thoughts
just might be easier to express in English and some easier in
Greek. We have some Chinese friends but they always speak all
Chinese or all English. We also have Hispanic friends and
family and they also speak mostly all one or the other. I have
always wished I could learn other languages but while I have
learned many thing in my time, other languages are just not a
big part of my skill set. I do speak American English, British
English, Australian English and a little New Zealand
English... :-) I do also speak a little dog, cat and horse.</div>
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<div>Dang! I'm getting burned out on daily raining... Crops are
all over the place in quality and some fields are still not
planted and still standing water. One problem with a really
wet spring here is that if the ground stays too wet too long
the corn will not put down many deep roots then if it suddenly
turns very dry it doesn't have a root system deep enough to
get good moisture. If that happens the guys that use
irrigation here may benefit from its use.</div>
<div>It's been "interesting" with these everyday rains going
past the local Whitecastle joint in a down pour of rain and
seeing their sprinkler system running. It must be under
"corporate control".</div></div></blockquote></div>
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