<div dir="ltr"><div>My father had a set of these on his Ford 9N and spent a lot of time cussing them, said he would never buy any again. They were bad at loading up with our waxy clay mud when trying to back out of a wet spot. They were smooth on the road though which would make them good on antique tractors for parades and drives. Then of course they look "proper" on old tractors. As you say, they need to come in more sizes like at least a 12.4 and 13.6 and at least the same widths in a 38" tire, and also at about half the current price. $1,100 plus is a lot of money for a set for old tractors that are very rarely earning their keep... Larger sizes would be higher and maybe even exponentially so. Few people want to spend $2,000 getting new tires put on an $1,800 tractor. :-)</div><div>I constantly watch consignment auctions for "functional" used tires like Spencer mentioned. Something else I have done several times is buy a rough tractor with a pair of good rears and take them off to use on something that needs them and then sell the donor tractor. One I recall was a Co-op that had been back-flipped in a woods. I bought it for $200, took the rears off and ran them on my Deere A for years and sold the Co-op for a little more than I paid for it. Another one was a rough Allis WC with nearly new rears bought cheap and the tires swapped with a really crappy set on a very good WD I had. I also sold that old WC for a tiny profit. It would have been even better if I could have just switched wheels but you can't have everything. I was a good bit younger then and swapping rears wasn't nearly as much work as it is now. :-)</div><div>.<br></div><div>Here is a pic from Miller's.</div><div><div><img src="cid:ii_jub96ye20" alt="image.png" width="253" height="472"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:43 PM Al Jones <<a href="mailto:farmallsupera1@gmail.com">farmallsupera1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>There's a reason just about every manufacturer went to 23 degree lugs. I prefer the look of the old straight 45 degrees though. Of course what I really wish is that Firestone would make the old "turkey track" Champion Ground Grip tires from the late 40s again! You can get 10-28 (11-2 28s) but that's it.</div><div><br></div><div>Al<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 11:29 PM Brian VanDragt <<a href="mailto:bvandragt@comcast.net" target="_blank">bvandragt@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)"><div>I have heard, probably on this list, that the 45 degree tread offers more sideways ground holding power on a side hill.<div>Brian </div><div><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:100%"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: deanvp <<a href="mailto:deanvp@att.net" target="_blank">deanvp@att.net</a>> </div><div>Date: 4/8/19 11:12 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <<a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>> </div><div>Subject: Re: [AT] tire brand </div><div><br></div></div><div><font face="sans-serif">I can only offer my limited experience with the two. The 45 degree lug sheds mud better but the 23 degree lug offers slightly better traction</font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="gmail-m_5028146186817814950gmail-m_84093092358813825composer_signature"><div style="color:rgb(87,87,87);font-size:85%" dir="auto">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy Tablet</div></div><div><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:100%"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> </div><div>Date: 4/8/19 4:08 PM (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <<a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>> </div><div>Subject: Re: [AT] tire brand </div><div><br></div></div>What's the difference between 45 and 23 degree, other that the obvious?<br><br>Mike M<br><br>On 4/8/2019 6:08 PM, John Hall wrote:<br>> OK here is the latest. Getting rims local, about the same price as you<br>> can get anywhere on the net by the time I add shipping---plus I need<br>> them NOW.<br>><br>> Talked to 2 tire shops. Leaning toward the closest one. I'll have them<br>> mount the tires on the new rims. I'll then put them on the tractor and<br>> add fluid. Leaning toward a Carlisle--I had no idea they made any<br>> thing besides lawn mower tires. These tires will be a 45 deg angle,<br>> not 23. Replacing a set of multi-angle Safemark. The other option is<br>> tires made by Galaxy.<br>><br>> John Hall<br>><br>><br>> On 4/7/2019 5:45 PM, John Hall wrote:<br>>> Looks like I have to buy 2 rear tires in a hurry. Anybody bought a<br>>> particular brand the in the last few years that you are happy with?<br>>> The cheaper the better--got to buy 2 rims as well. Rims made it 47<br>>> years and have stress cracks, the tires are 60-70% tread, but at 28<br>>> years old they have dry rotted.<br>>><br>>> John Hall<br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> AT mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>>> <a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AT mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>><br><br><br>---<br>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br><a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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