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    <p>Does anyone have any experience with Evans Waterless Coolant? I
      have seen it advertised starting within the last year and did some
      checking price wise, but I haven't bought any and have no
      experience.</p>
    <p>Thanks in advance,</p>
    <p>Phil in TX<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/18/2019 7:02 AM, Mark Johnson
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      <p>My brother in law is a chemist - in his experience in
        industrial chemistry, they used ethylene glycol and propylene
        glycol interchangeably as solvents, based on what was available
        and cheap.</p>
      <p>[Note: He was NOT involved in food-grade chemicals, he works
        with fire retardants!]</p>
      <p>Propylene glycol is roughly 1/3 as toxic (as measured by LD50
        with rats) as ethylene glycol. By most standards, even ethylene
        glycol is not very toxic, but it's a hazard because the sweet
        taste can lead animals (and humans, in my personal experience)
        to consume the stuff. Given that they are both used as
        specialized industrial solvents, it's not surprising that these
        compounds can do funny things to rubber radiator hoses. I don't
        doubt that part of the testing of materials for radiator hoses
        includes resistance to all commonly used antifreeze compounds. <br>
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      <p>A bit of agriculture: Back in the day before it was banned, we
        discovered the hard way that the herbicide Lasso (common name
        alachlor) did nasty things to some types of hoses. We had to
        change out all the hoses on a spray rig at least once before we
        figured it out.<br>
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      <p>Mark J<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/17/2019 6:53 PM, David Myers
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          sans-serif;font-size:13px;">In my experience both types are
          good coolants.  My only caution is do not mix the two!  They
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          special to change types other than drain and refill although
          flushing with plain water sure won't hurt and isn't a bad
          idea.  I wasn't aware that propylene glycol is less toxic,
          that is a definite plus.</div>
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                        also makes a propylene glycol antifreeze. Its
                        heat transfer abilities are better than
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                      <div class="yiv0285361878gmail_attr" dir="ltr">Good
                        in high temps but not so great in the winter
                        because at idle the heater output at idle was
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