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<p>My experience of the worst was with a 1010 John Deere, and that
Fiat made Oliver. Both were just too small to compete with the
25hp Massey Ferguson tractors we had before.</p>
<p>Cecil<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/12/2019 4:56 PM, charlie hill
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<div><font size="4">my thoughts exactly Al. Consider the
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 12, 2019 2:54 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Of the 10 worst tractors,
two were made by Fiat. 4 were from brands eventually
acquired by Fiat.</div>
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<div>Most of the article was drivel, based on second hand
information. And I strongly dislike Fords and MFs.</div>
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<div>Al<br>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at
12:47 PM Indiana Robinson <<a moz-do-not-send="true">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>As an old geezer...
<div>Our information pool was typically smallish and
pretty local. What we did know was often quite a bit
about the guys that were bad-mouthing a tractor or
implement. Many times we knew whether or not he
belonged to the club that my father used to refer to
as "just being rough on rat's"... My own statement
has long been "He could break an anvil while
straightening feathers." 😀 If they were in that
club you deeply discounted their opinion. In today's
wide open Internet world we don't usually know that
about those who express opinions.</div>
<div>By the same token there were those in the area
who's opinion we respected very highly.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 9:28 AM Spencer
Yost <<a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">spencer@rdfarms.com</a>
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<div>Stephen,<br>
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That was my very first question too. Looks like
he’s just writing article to write an article.
He found some complaints and put them on the
list. I owned an MT and could not get rid of
it fast enough. It was not a terribly useful
tractor. I don’t think it belonged on the 10
worst of all time though. </div>
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<div>But this brings up the sampling error
prevalent in so many opinions that I hear. It’s
becoming very rare to run across the folks like
Herb Metz, George Willer, Gene Dotson, Gil
Schwartz and others , who were around and using
these machines when they were new. They
probably are the only ones that have an accurate
picture of what was a lemon and what wasn’t. I’m
57, so in reality I am only familiar with each
models “survivors” - “residents of the right
hand tail of the bell curve” if you will, and
clearly not the units that were lemons. </div>
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<div>I really like my Ford 861, but did I just get
one of the top 10% made in terms of quality and
workmanship? If I had bought one new in the late
50s would I have had a 15% chance of buying one
causing nothing but heartache and grief? Being
this young I can’t answer this question.<br>
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Sampling bias is real, alive, and loose in the
world. You always have to guard against it</div>
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On Feb 12, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Stephen Offiler
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue,
Feb 12, 2019 at 12:47 AM James Peck <<a
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0px 0px 0.8ex">Two of the 10 were made
by Fiat. Another 4 were from brands
eventually acquired by Fiat. Amazingly
jd has 2 of the 10.<br>
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Massey Ferguson had a dud. They used a
Cat engine. Should have stayed with
Perkins.<br>
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