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</div><div class="ydpbfe886e1yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Ah, yes. But he did state at the beginning that this was done in fun and in his opinion. My mileage varied from his. </div><div class="ydpbfe886e1yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></div><div class="ydpbfe886e1yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">David</div><div class="ydpbfe886e1yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">In ice covered Michigan.</div><div class="ydpbfe886e1yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></div><div class="ydpbfe886e1yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">
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On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 09:28:23 AM EST, Spencer Yost <spencer@rdfarms.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv7824703203"><div><div>Stephen,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">That was my very first question too. Looks like he’s just writing article to write an article. He found some complaints and put them on the list. I owned an MT and could not get rid of it fast enough. It was not a terribly useful tractor. I don’t think it belonged on the 10 worst of all time though. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>But this brings up the sampling error prevalent in so many opinions that I hear. It’s becoming very rare to run across the folks like Herb Metz, George Willer, Gene Dotson, Gil Schwartz and others , who were around and using these machines when they were new. They probably are the only ones that have an accurate picture of what was a lemon and what wasn’t. I’m 57, so in reality I am only familiar with each models “survivors” - “residents of the right hand tail of the bell curve” if you will, and clearly not the units that were lemons. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I really like my Ford 861, but did I just get one of the top 10% made in terms of quality and workmanship? If I had bought one new in the late 50s would I have had a 15% chance of buying one causing nothing but heartache and grief? Being this young I can’t answer this question.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sampling bias is real, alive, and loose in the world. You always have to guard against it</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div></div><div></div><div><div id="yiv7824703203AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Spencer Yost</div><div class="yiv7824703203yqt0777884311" id="yiv7824703203yqt55465"><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">On Feb 12, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Stephen Offiler <<a href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com">soffiler@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">What makes that guy the authority on the subject?</div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv7824703203gmail_quote"><div class="yiv7824703203gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 12:47 AM James Peck <<a href="mailto:jamesgpeck@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jamesgpeck@hotmail.com">jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv7824703203gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">Two of the 10 were made by Fiat. Another 4 were from brands eventually acquired by Fiat. Amazingly jd has 2 of the 10.<br clear="none">
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