<div dir="ltr"><div>The Super M has a Char-Lynn power steering unit under the hood above the back of the engine.</div><div>The Super MTA has a Behlen unit that sits out in the open just in front of the post at the back of the steering shaft. I have been told that it was a factory option on late production models. I have no idea if that statement is true or not or if it is true if this particular tractor's unit was a factory or dealer option or farmer aftermarket installation. It has "Behlen" molded into the side of the body casting.<br></div><div>The 400 LP has the same Behlen unit but it is under the hood.</div><div>None of these 3 tractors have a separate belt driven PS pump. The Super-Ms and 400 series tractors had very good high volume hydraulic pumps driven off of the timing gear mounted between the timing gear and the distributor. The power steering is operated by a "flow divider" that gives a constant source of power to the power steering as a first priority but the largest volume then going on to the other hydraulics.</div><div>I consider the Behlen unit to be far superior to the Char-Lynn unit. The Behlen is much larger.</div><div>I recall my father-in-law talking about their regular M having a belt driven Char-Lynn PS pump and while it was not too bad with just the tractor they kept a loader on that tractor and he described it as almost useless with a load in the bucket.</div><div>My Super M has a New Idea loader and a 3 point hitch on it. When you work all of it hard the hydraulic oil gets pretty hot. We countered that by adding a 3 gallon auxiliary tank to the loader frame and plumbing it in a manner that ran all of the return oil through that tank and back to the origina<b>l</b> <span></span>
reservoir. The return from the PS unit all passed through a large screw on oil filter too. Between them it helped a lot with the cooling of the fluid.</div><div>The Super M and later the Super MTA were purchased for mounting a New Idea Mounted corn picker.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 8:03 AM Grant Brians <<a href="mailto:sales@heirloom-organic.com">sales@heirloom-organic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail-m_-6826323987786283987moz-cite-prefix">I am replying to this thread just
before I head to farmers market up in the SF Bay Area and after
loading the trucks. On Spencer's comment, those Char-Lynn Power
steering units were added to quite a few tractors in that era. I
don't have add on power steering on any of my tractors and don't
miss it, but having said that, one of my Oliver77's has the
factory power steering unit on it. Maintenance on those 1950
vintage units is challenging, so to be honest it has leaked a few
gallons of hydraulic oil over the decades.... My 1953 Caterpillar
D8 does have an add-on hydraulic pump to hydraulically assist the
steering clutches and brakes, I don't quite count it as add-on
power steering as it doesn't work the same as a steering wheel
setup. When I acquired the tractor, I was told by a Caterpillar
specialist that the power assist on that tractor was worth what I
paid for the tractor initially. Over time it has had more money
put into it, but an interesting note.<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_-6826323987786283987moz-cite-prefix"> As the thread has really moved
into favorite tractors, I have a number of them. As the list
knows, I am highly partial to the Olivers and I love the
Fleetline/Super/770 series. I have Fleetline and Super series 77's
in gas and diesel, a 770, a 550, a Super 88 but no Super 99 or 990
GM or otherwise. When I started farming in the 1970's I envied
those farmers with a D6C Caterpillar and I have one now. I hoped
to add a Big Cat to the D4's that I started out with for field
tillage and I have the D8. I liked the pipe racks mounted on the
small row crop Farmalls and AC's and I have an AC C, two Farmall
100's and a Massey Harris Pony with mounted racks.</div>
<div class="gmail-m_-6826323987786283987moz-cite-prefix"> The common thread of these units
is that they are all for actual farming of vegetables and other
specialty crops. There are certainly other tractors that I would
love to have, but at before 5AM I can't think of them other than
an orchard Caterpillar D4 for the Walnuts....</div>
<div class="gmail-m_-6826323987786283987moz-cite-prefix"> Grant Brians -
Hollister,California farmer of vegetables, herbs, edible flowers,
orchard and hay</div>
<div class="gmail-m_-6826323987786283987moz-cite-prefix">On 1/11/2019 8:53 PM, Spencer Yost
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I think I saw that MTA when I was at your place? It had the
Char-Wynn (sp?) power steering I think...
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<div>Problem is my real tractor shed isn’t big enough for my
fantasy tractors.....<br>
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On Jan 11, 2019, at 10:20 PM, Indiana Robinson <<a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" target="_blank">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>My Super MTA (gas) is, I guess, my favorite
tractor... My Farmall 400 is about the same tractor but
they made a lot more of them. Next is a draw between my
Ferguson TO-20 and my 1947 Farmall Cub.</div>
<div>I too have drooled over several 555's.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:15 PM Dave
Maynard <<a href="mailto:dave@themaplehillfarm.com" target="_blank">dave@themaplehillfarm.com</a>>
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<div>Plus finding a good Super MTA that you can afford
is hard enough as they go for a lot. I have seen
real nice original one go for $8000 and it was gas.
Diesels on the other hand seem quite rare to find.
My son Mike's TD6 has that engine and you'ld love
the way it sounds and runs. I can get you a link to
you tube video of me running it a bunch of years
ago if you would like. Let me know and I'll go find
it.</div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)">I have always mentioned that my
“fantasy tractor shed” would have to have a Farmall
super MTA diesel.<br>
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The second tractor in the shed would be the Massey
Harris 555 diesel. <br>
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Spencer Yost<br>
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> On Jan 11, 2019, at 9:50 AM, James Peck <<a href="mailto:jamesgpeck@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</a>>
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> <a href="http://legacyquarterly.com/Calendar2019#" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://legacyquarterly.com/Calendar2019#</a><br>
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> The Issue 39 of Legacy Quarterly has an article
Massey Harris Triples 333, 444, 555 The Last Massey
Harris Tractors. The article contains a photo of
the Ferguson LTX 60. It may be that the same set
of personalities who quashed the LTX 60 also did not
want to update the triples. The 555 sold poorly in
1955 58. <br>
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> Clearly the setting for the eventual bankruptcy
were set in this merger.<br>
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