[AT] Not really an antique

Fri Mar 1 14:30:26 PST 2024

Brother in law just went to the local Deere dealership and bought the 2 seals.  I recall there was some warning that if the shaft was scored and maybe the bushings were worn that it could involve more.  Indeed there was a little play and the shaft was slightly scored but we put it back together and it held fine.

B²
Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.

From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of John Hall
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 4:23 PM
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Where'd you get the kit from? I used Boling Machine, they make them for a lot of Deere's, apparently they are an improved design

John
On 3/1/2024 4:54 PM, Bill Brueck wrote:
I replaced the loadshaft sensing seals on brother in law’s 3010 a couple of years ago.  Not much to it, you’ll get along fine.  As I recall there were ample explanations on the Internet, probably youtube, about how to tackle it.  I recall having the most trouble getting the left side seal out.  Awkward position and didn’t have much in the way of tools to work with.  After that project I bought a seal puller and I don’t think I’ve even used it yet.

We also had carb challenges with this unit, I recall reading at the time that the MS carb would work fine but there weren’t many mechanics around who knew the carb well enough to get it right.  So I expect that if you take it slow and find some direction on  how to tune this carb, you can probably get what  you have working.  I think the 3010 already had the Zenith carb and we were able to get that to work well.

B²
Bill Brueck
Pine Island, MN
Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.

From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com><mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of Dean Vinson
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 2:02 PM
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Hi John.   I did indeed join that group on Facebook, and already posted a quick note about buying this tractor.   I’d been a member several years ago as well but eventually signed off since (at the time) I didn’t have a 10 or 20 series tractor and was getting bogged down with too many Facebook groups.   But clearly the time is now right to come back.  :)

I also am a member of the “Classic Green” FB group and posted about the tractor there as well, and right away someone noticed it has the original Marvel-Schebler carburetor—which evidently has a rather dismal performance record—instead of a Zenith.   When I test drove the tractor it started easily but did tend to stumble and require fiddling with the choke even while I was driving it around, so the Facebook comments about the carb weren’t really a surprise.   I’m going to replace the original carb with a Zenith from Roberts Carburetor Repair, but they have a long backlog of orders so I’ll have plenty of time to tinker with the Marvel-Schebler.

Was your loadshaft leaking at the seals?   I ran into that with the 3020 I’d owned way back when.  One of those little nuisance things with an old tractor.  Hope your rebuild process goes quickly.

Dean Vinson
Saint Paris, Ohio

From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com<mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> On Behalf Of John Hall
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 4:28 PM
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I HIGHLY encourage you toe join the 10 ans 20 series Deere group on Facebook. I grew up with 2 4020's and the knowledge in that group is amazing. One of the guys there guided me through converting my 24 volt system to 12 volt. We did it better than any of the aftermarket kits. I have to rebuild the loadshaft now, guys there told me where to go to get a kit better than what Deere has.

John Hall
On 2/28/2024 1:22 AM, Dean Vinson wrote:
25 years ago I bought a 1965 gas-burning 3020.  Didn’t know hardly anything about them, or about that series of tractors in general, but it had a shiny coat of paint on it and I was at a place in life where it felt important to buy a tractor.   I sold it a few years later, having learned a few thousand dollars’ worth of lessons about the problems those tractors can have.

In recent months I’ve again felt the desire to buy a tractor, and yesterday I became the third owner of this 1967 gas-burning 3020.   It’s got a few issues for me to tinker with, but it’s about as clean and original as one could ask for—with only a little over 3200 hours on the original working tach.   I think and hope I’m a bit wiser of a buyer than I was 25 years ago, but the coming years will tell the tale.   In the meantime, dang, it’s fun to have a new toy!

(Or to be precise, to have a new toy picked out and paid for… I still have to arrange for it to be hauled about 200 miles from where it sits to my place.  All things in time.  :)

Dean Vinson
Saint Paris, Ohio

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