[AT] 12,000 lb winches

Sun Apr 21 18:36:41 PDT 2024

 Since several have recommended using a snatch block I probably don't need a 12,000 lb Winch so I am giving serious consideration to the Smittybilt X2O GEN2 10K Waterproof Wireless Winch with Synthetic Rope - 98510. Much, Much better warranty and better water resistance. $70 more than the $100 off Harbor Freight Winch but better specs. I guess you pay for the extra warranty one way or the other. I haven't found the duty cycle on it yet, but I suspect it will be better. SmittyBilt has their Gen 3 Winches listed on their web site with slightly higher HP motors. They also list a 10,000 as well as 12,000 lb winch but I haven't found out why one is rated higher than the other. The specs listed on their site are all the same except for the 12,000 vs 10,000 lb rating.

    On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:08:35 PM PDT, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:  

  Harbor Freight has their Badland Apex 12,000 lb winch on sale with $100 off which at first look appears like a pretty good deal. But....  then when looking at the warranty a second look is required. 90 day warranty???? Really?  That is really concerning when other manufacturers offer 2 years.  Harbor Freight must be depending on buyers paying for the extended warranty on the winch.  I don't normally buy extended warranty on anything but on winches I probably would give it extra thought. There are other highly rated, lower cost 12,000 or 13,500 lb, winches out there with better warranties. Is Badland a Harbor Freight proprietary brand?
    On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 08:02:09 PM PDT, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:  

  Dave, 
Thanks for the response.  I'm curious why you mounted the winch 20" above the deck. To be at the same level as the drawbar on the tractor? I can visualize that being better but what I don't know is how I would fabricate something strong enough to handle the twisting torque on a tilt bed trailer.
    On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 07:17:26 AM PDT, drgerber <drgerber at bright.net> wrote:  

  Dean:  forgot to add that I mounted the winch about 20" about the bed level in the front of the trailer; 24' trailer; did some cave man fabricating, litely a little overbuilt w gussets, etc. It has server me well.
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Dean VP wrote:

 Since my accident I am unable to turn my head to the rear nearly as much as I was able to in the past which wasn't all that good before as I've gotten older.  But,,,,  I still want to load tractors on my 20' tilt 10,400 lb GVW equipment trailer but in a little safer way than before.  I tend to load tractors on backwards so I can get more weight on the tongue since JD Two Cylinder tractors have about 70% of their total weight on the rear axle. My heaviest Two Cylinder is a JD 720 LP Standard which weighs close to 8000 lbs. So... my idea is to get a 12,000 lb Winch mounted to the very front of the tilt bed and winch tractors on rather than back them on. My thinking is to have a cordless remote so I could sit in the seat of the tractor while it is being pulled on so I could steer a bit if necessary.  I do have removable fenders and the bed is 102" wide through the whole 20' except between the tires so I don't have to be perfectly centered.  Now thinking of Winches i have decided that even though my heaviest tractor is 8000 lbs I will be pulling up a slope so I need the extra pulling capacity and I want the extra capacity to get a better duty cycle.  If one looks at the specs of various winches Duty Cycle is not even mentioned or conveniently hidden but if one digs deep enough you will find worrying specs of winching 45 seconds under full load and then have to wait 15 minutes.  That is not compatible with my needs.  Especially when typical winching speeds of 20 FPM are applied to a 20'trailer.  Initial looks at some higher priced winches gets better Duty Cycles that appear to be acceptable. Then the winch specs are based on which level the tow cable or rope is at which gets really confusing. I am leaning toward getting a rope as opposed to a steel cable just simply because how nasty steel cables can be. If necessary, I'm willing to replace the rope occasionally if it wears out. I'm thinking of using a steel plate that has a right angle that wraps around the front end of the bed frame bolted in and then bolt the winch and plate though the bed. I haven't found a commercial plate that does that so may have to fabricate one. But given all those parameters, I am interested in what ATIS members have found to work for them. Or whatever brands are suggested for Winches and recommendations on how to mount the winch on the bed of the trailer.  I don't want to spend more than necessary but I also realize I can't lowball this. .Any comments, suggestions and help will be appreciated. 

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