[AT] Not quite an antiques problem...
John Maddock
agtronixjv at bigpond.com
Mon Dec 19 12:54:28 PST 2022
....but a puzzle for the brains trust, never the less!
JCB JZ140 excavator, (9500 hrs) electrical problem.
Briefly: machine has not been used for most of the winter, but I’ve
topped up the batteries twice each month. Noted at the last charging
session a week ago that one of the batteries took a long time to reach
full charge.
Today, the electronic monitor screen showed low battery voltage & the
starter motor refused to operate.
Connected 24v from external batteries & everything sprang to life as
normal.
Moved the machine maybe 5.0 m to lift and reposition some equipment,
then moved it 5.0m back again, the engine running for maybe 15 mins.
Aircon was on at the same time to wet the compressor seals. Decided to
check the battery state, so killed the engine and re-started it - just.
Tried again, and the screen showed low battery voltage and flywheel
sensor fault.
Reconnected the jumper batteries - and observed the following:
1. “Dead” electronic monitor unit; no screen, no symbols.
2. A very dim LED on the Emergency Stop button. (Usually, that has to be
used as well as the switch to stop the engine. No idea why; been that
way since I bought the machine). In addition, pressing the button did
not switch off the dim LED, as it normally would.
3. The engine starts - and stops instantly.
4. The throttle arm does not move; it is unclear if it remains in the
“engine stop” position and as a result the engine is somehow running
briefly on residual fuel. The run/instant stop is repeatable, not a
oncer.
5. Switching to “limp mode” makes no difference to any of the above.
I’ve:
1 checked the fuse for ECU-STD, EMS Battery Supply; multimeter said its
ok.
2 disconnected the onboard batteries; now running completely on fully
charged, external, jumpered batteries.
3 Read the service manual carefully. It suggests checking input/output
voltages at several input/output points on the ECU.
Considering Farmer's frequent calls "Check the grounds, check the
grounds" does this sound like an earthing fault at a point common to all
the observed irregularities?
JV
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