[AT] history of PTO's on tractors .... when LIVE PTO/ now wood prices
Mike M
meulenms at gmx.com
Sun May 30 20:16:35 PDT 2021
LOL, I got 2 blades off my Scag zero turn and could not get the third
one off. Despite having both feet on the back tire and two hands on the
wrench. I've lost about 40lbs recently (on purpose) and with it lost a
lot of my strength. I finally took my loader tractor, wrapped a chain
around the front, and hoisted it up, and put the impact to it. I did
put jack stands under it in case of a hydraulic failure. But it did the
trick in two seconds. BTW you can check Lowe's prices on line if you
punch in your zip code.
Regards,
Mike M
On 5/30/2021 10:55 PM, deanvp wrote:
> Ok, I will check at the local Lowes and see what price they are
> gouging. BTW, I used to use the 2x4 trick on loosening the mower
> blade bolt but I got really lazy and now just use the air powered
> impact wrench. 18 mm socket and boom the bolt is out. I even use
> anti-seize lubricant on the bolt threads and they still seem to lock
> up like they are frozen. I just don't fight with them any more. You
> just have to jack the front of the GT and deck high enough to make
> room for the impact wrench. My floor jack just does the job with not
> much room to spare. I've looked at buying a longer lever floor jack
> but when I see the price I decide real quick I am satisfied with what
> I have.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
> Date: 5/30/21 4:44 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re: [AT] history of PTO's on tractors .... when LIVE PTO/ now
> wood prices
>
> Hi Dean,
> Yes what I was referring to was a standard 2x4 like is used in general
> construction, not pressure treated. Prices here are $8 a piece per
> board and it used to be $2. I have a short piece of 2x4 about a foot
> long that I use to jam my mower blades to take them off to sharpen
> them, it's literally worth a dollar.
>
> Mike M
>
> On 5/30/2021 4:25 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Do you mean by “white board” Pine, Fir or Hemlock? I need to check
>> but I believe I have heard others talking about 8’ 2 x 4’s running $8
>> apiece. . Have been to lumber stores recently looking at deck
>> stuff bit haven’t looked at 2 x 4 x 8’ since they are not used much
>> in a deck. I need to look at pressure treated lumber too since all
>> wood under the composite deck boards will be treated lumber. I just
>> received a quote on what a right angle corner bench 10 x 6’ mounted
>> to the joists and built out of the same composite boards used on the
>> deck as an increase to the existing quote….$1800. The previous quote
>> supposedly included benches. I’m dumfounded by the quotes I am
>> getting. I may be trying to do something that is out of the ordinary
>> for today’s contractors. I’m trying to nail down the details so that
>> there aren’t add-on charges during the project. That may exclude
>> some bidders in today’s market place. I make decisions on what
>> contractors I might be able to trust based on their responses to me
>> trying to nail down details. The lowest price is third down the list
>> is 1.) A trustworthy contractor and a 2.) deck built to expectations
>> and layout. I’m finding that some contractors don’t like being
>> pinned down on details that are important to me. I sure hope they
>> aren’t trying to play games. I think it is reasonable for me to ask
>> when and where what type of screws will have to be used versus which
>> version of clips and will the screw holes be counter sunk and
>> filled? Is that unreasonable? I don’t want any more screws used
>> than is necessary.
>>
>> Dean VP
>>
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
>> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>>
>> ..Winston Churchill...
>>
>> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike M
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 29, 2021 1:10 PM
>> *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AT] history of PTO's on tractors .... when LIVE PTO
>>
>> Dean, I'd be curious to know what prices are out west. Here in
>> Michigan a 2x4x8' white wood used to be 1.97, is now $8. I wanted to
>> have a pole barn built but that will have to wait. A sheet of OSB is $40
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On 5/29/2021 12:41 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>>
>> Spencer,
>>
>> Never want to let the little stuff get in the way. And ….
>> lumber is cheap right now. Just received a $40,000 quote on my
>> $15,000 deck project. That just plain dumfounds me.
>>
>> Dean VP
>>
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance,
>> and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of
>> misery."
>>
>> ..Winston Churchill...
>>
>> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of
>> *Spencer Yost
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:28 AM
>> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AT] history of PTO's on tractors .... when LIVE PTO
>>
>> I always wanted a Roto Baler. I don’t have a single sane, logical
>> reason other than I just love to watch them in action. Since I
>> have small acreage I thought it would be interesting to try to
>> use one. Unfortunately they were never popular around here so I
>> would have to haul one in from afar and they are difficult to
>> transport. So I’ve never had the opportunity to buy one that was
>> in good enough shape to be worth the effort to transport.
>>
>> Plus it would take up a lot of my nonexistent shed space. (-: I
>> could not keep it out of the rain without erecting a shed. The
>> lumber would cost more than the rotobaler (-:
>>
>> Spencer
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 29, 2021, at 10:57 AM, Mark Johnson
>> <markjohnson100 at centurylink.net
>> <mailto:markjohnson100 at centurylink.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Herb & all:
>>
>> I remember that we had two different JD A's and a 620 when I
>> was growing up...the 'old' A definitely did not have live
>> PTO. The 'new' A (pressed steel frame instead of cast iron)
>> *might* have had live PTO; I just don't recall. The 620 and
>> everything later that we had, all definitely had live PTO. We
>> used the 620 and 730s to power our AC roto baler. The IH 300
>> would have had enough power, but lacked the live PTO, so it
>> got relegated to rake duty. My dad said this of the original
>> AC roto baler design: "I never baled with it without
>> something breaking during the day. But I also never failed to
>> finish baling what we had raked and ready." Admittedly, ours
>> was old, and had been extensively rebuilt. Even at that, the
>> latch plates that held the upper and lower belt gangs in the
>> 'roll a bale" position had some wear, and would occasionally
>> release without being tripped - either while we were running
>> twine, or even before that. I always thought of it as the
>> baler "throwing up" on us.
>>
>> If the bale hadn't been partially tied, we just carried the
>> hay back around to the pickup deck and ran it through again :-).
>>
>> For myself, I always thought of the AC Roto-Baler as being an
>> engineer's dream and a mechanic's nightmare. Lots of manual
>> operation (stopping to feed twine manually, then tripping the
>> release to eject the bale every time. I heard some tales that
>> there was a later version, never produced or built only in
>> small quantities, that had a way to 'hold' hay while the
>> twine feed was running, so the operator didn't have to stop
>> for each bale. I can only imagine the mechanical complexity
>> of such a beast. Can anybody confirm or deny?
>>
>> Mark J
>>
>> On 5/29/2021 9:34 AM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
>>
>> I think the earliest live PTO was on the WD Allis
>> Chalmers. Built to power the AC roto baler. The hand
>> clutch stopped forward travel and left he PTO running.
>> I really liked running my old WD, just hated the seat. I
>> still have kinks in my back from it...
>> Cecil
>>
>> On 5/28/2021 9:05 PM, HERBERT METZ wrote:
>>
>> Dean, I certainly agree and hope that purists pick up
>> on this by sharing their knowledge of history of
>> these two PTO systems. Herb(GA)
>>
>> On 05/28/2021 4:36 PM Dean VP <deanvp at att.net>
>> <mailto:deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Herb,
>>
>> In addition to your question when did LIVE PTO
>> arrive and what tractor Manufacturer provided
>> it. I do believe there is a distinction needed
>> to be made between INDEPENDENT LIVE PTO and LIVE
>> PTO for the purists
>>
>> Dean VP
>>
>> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *HERBERT METZ
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 23, 2021 4:19 AM
>> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> *Subject:* [AT] history of PTO's on tractors
>>
>> When did PTO's first appear on tractors? I
>> assume sickle bar mowers was one of the first
>> implements that PTO's appeared on?
>>
>> I use an Allis Chalmers PTO powered four foot
>> tiller behind my AC720 large lawn tractor; sure
>> is a nice way to till our large vegetable garden.
>>
>> Herb(GA)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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