[AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???

Mike M meulenms at gmx.com
Fri May 7 12:46:38 PDT 2021


Hi Dean,
I have a 6x8 version of the exact drag you posted. . I've used it to
smooth my gravel driveway, I've used it to smooth our sand arena, and
our paddock and round pen. There were times I had add weight, 200 to 300
lbs so it would deeper. For the paddock and round pen, I did not need
the weight and I could pull it with my garden tractor, although it
worked the crap out of it.For the sand arena I needed 4x4 because of
depth of the sand. Depending on your soil type it may work, but their is
no guarantee. IMHO a disc harrow would be better.

Mike M

On 5/7/2021 6:32 AM, Dean VP wrote:
>
> What do you guys think of this unit from Tractor Supply at $259 and
> then attaching a 4’ heavy plow beam section at the tail end to create
> more down pressure due to added tension and smooth things out a bit
> after the teeth do their job? I would then just drag this behind the
> Garden Tractor when I mowed.  I don’t think the drag rake by itself
> would do the job but adding the heavy plow beam at the tail end might
> help quite a bit.  A longer tow chain might reduce the tendency to
> lift the front of the drag harrow too.  Worst case one could add
> weight on top but I don’t see how that weight gets distributed very
> well with a chain drag. See URL Link below:
>
> https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/yard-tuff-4-ft-x-4-ft-heavy-duty-drag-harrow
>
> This can be purchased elsewhere for $239 but then $70 to $80 freight
> is added.  At $259 at TSC is gets delivered to the store. That is only
> 7 ½ miles away for me. Haven’t found anything that beats that yet.
>
> PS, I was thinking of pulling my water filled barrel roller behind
> this to push the loosened rock back into the ground but that is too 
> heavy and cumbersome I think 😊  And would not work very good going
> down hill. 😊
>
> Dean VP
>
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>
> ..Winston Churchill...
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *Dean VP
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 6, 2021 1:51 PM
> *To:* 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group'
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???
>
> One thing there is no shortage of here is tractors.  They range from
> Garden Tractors, to Compact Tractors to a 720 Diesel John Deere. I do
> have about a 12’ section of pretty heavy channel iron that I use to
> level dirt but since it is ridged I don’t think it would work very
> good in the pasture, but I suppose if I went in enough directions it
> might get most of the mounds.  Maybe I could just drag it behind the
> Garden Tractor every time I mow.  I don’t see how it could make things
> worse.   Hmmm, I’m starting to warm up to this idea.  Maybe I could
> attach some weights to it too.  Need to see if the messes up the
> mowing that the channel iron has been drug over before I get to mowing
> it.  Wonder if there is a way to offset it. Hmmmm,  this could get
> intelesting.  May not work if it drags the loose clippings too much.
> What if I just drug a heavy beam the width of the mower deck.  That
> would at least knock down the Mole and Pocket Gopher mounds a bit.  At
> least doing it the same time I mow would eliminate duplicate trips
> over the field. Intelesting.  Could drag a drag a 4’ wide 8’ long
> section drag harrow behind while mowing too. Need to have something
> that weighs enough to not bounce around on top.
>
> Dean VP
>
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>
> ..Winston Churchill...
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> *On Behalf Of
> *ustonThomas Mehrkam
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 5, 2021 5:40 AM
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> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>;
> Mark Johnson <markjohnson100 at centurylink.net
> <mailto:markjohnson100 at centurylink.net>>; at at lists.antique-tractor.com
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> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???
>
> You likely do not a big enough tractor. This what we did when we moved
> a house across the hay meadow in winter.
>
> We were left with deep ruts. The truck bogged down for two weeks.
> Finally got truck and house out in on the pad.
>
> We had huge massy Ferguson tractor and a 30 foot length of heavy
> railroad rail with a loop of heavy chain welded to both ends. Hooked
> the tractor to the center of the chain and drug it over the ruts.
>
> It filled the ruts and leveled it flat as a board.
>
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>     On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 6:59 AM, Mark Johnson
>
>     <markjohnson100 at centurylink.net
>     <mailto:markjohnson100 at centurylink.net>> wrote:
>
>     That one looks very similar to the one I spent many an hour dragging
>     around the farm as a teenager - ours resembled two of these (12'
>     wide)
>     ganged together. My dad believed it did an adequate job...
>
>     Mark J
>
>     On 5/4/2021 11:39 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>     > Here is one that looks interesting. Not sure if it has adequate
>     pin density
>     >
>     >
>     https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/loyal-drag-harrow-6-ft-x-8-ft
>     >
>     >
>     > Dean VP
>     > Snohomish, WA 98290
>     > "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance,
>     and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of
>     misery."
>     > ..Winston Churchill...
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>     <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> On Behalf Of Dean VP
>     > Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 9:18 PM
>     > To: 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group'
>     <at at lists.antique-tractor.com <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
>     > Subject: Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???
>     >
>     > Spencer,
>     >
>     > That is it. Drag or chain harrow is the name that seems to work
>     here too. Haven't found a single used one for sale yet.  Tractor
>     Supply and Northern Tool  have some that might be worth looking
>     at.  I wonder if the rental yards have them.  That would be a way
>     to test to see how it works before purchasing.
>     >
>     > Dean VP
>     > Snohomish, WA 98290
>     > "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance,
>     and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of
>     misery."
>     > ..Winston Churchill...
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>     <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> On Behalf Of
>     Spencer Yost
>     > Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 4:05 PM
>     > To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>     <at at lists.antique-tractor.com <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
>     > Subject: Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???
>     >
>     > Drag harrow is what I think they’re called mainly around the
>     country. I hear “chain harrow” around here more frequently.  It’s
>     probably your only option if you’re trying your best not to
>     disturb more than an inch or two down and also not kill half your
>     grass.
>     >
>     > I can’t even think of anything else that would do the job yet
>     also leave stones unturned.
>     >
>     > I use it after disking to create a better seed bed and also in
>     my pasture to de-thatch and scarify the surface after plugging but
>     before fertilizing, seeding and  spreading compost.
>     >
>     > PS:  this is the type of implement that people often buy for a
>     single reseeding project and then resell.  I’ll bet some chain
>     harrows have had dozens of owners.  So  check Craigslist.
>     >
>     > Spencer
>     >
>     > Sent from my iPhone
>     >
>     >> On May 4, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net
>     <mailto:deanvp at att.net>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> I have 6 acres that I mow with my Garden tractor 3 of which is a
>     >> pasture on a slope which at one time had horses on it.  Now I
>     try to
>     >> keep the pasture looking nice by mowing it with my Garden Tractor
>     >> albeit at a slightly higher cut than the rest of the regular
>     lawn. The
>     >> last couple of years the pasture has gotten really rough from
>     multiple
>     >> sources including our not so friendly Moles and pocket gophers.
>     There
>     >> are several old growth stumps buried in the pasture which was well
>     >> done except will the dirt fill occurs it doesn't completely
>     fill all
>     >> around the stump down below. So over time and our incessant
>     rain some
>     >> settling occurs and even some small occur.  I try to fill the gaps
>     >> with dirt as I find them but each year 2 or 3 more show up. So
>     bottom
>     >> line is the pasture has gotten rough and beats the crap out of
>     me when I mow it. I would like to use a tool to try to smooth it
>     out a bit and
>     >> thatching the grass mat in places would not be a bad thing. 
>     But our soil
>     >> is terrible and at best could described as glacial till filled
>     with various
>     >> sized rocks.  So I really don't want to disturb the rocks too
>     much since I
>     >> have to mow it later.  So I want to smooth the soil out, not
>     disturb it too
>     >> much.  Known as a quandary.
>     >>
>     >> I'm thinking about acquiring pasture rake or drag with short
>     teeth on
>     >> it to work the top couple inches or so and  try to smooth out
>     the mole and gopher
>     >> mounds which I have manually knocked down a bit prior to
>     mowing,  I have no
>     >> experience with a pasture type rake.  I have experience with a
>     spiked
>     >> toothed drag we used on the farm in NW Iowa. But that was used to
>     >> smooth out  loose ground in preparation for planting corn or soy
>     >> beans. That isn't what I need. I think I need maybe 4 4' square
>     >> flexible sections that can flex with the varying terrain and
>     catch the
>     >> low as well as high spots. I think I can pull an 8' 8' unit
>     with my 20
>     >> to 22 HP Garden tractors. I'm more concerned about traction but
>     I can
>     >> put chains on if necessary.  I'm thinking I would want to take
>     several
>     >> passes at various different directions.  And hopefully I could
>     use this same implement to dethatch the rest of the lawn.
>     >>
>     >> Some of you surely have experience with something like what I need.
>     >> What do I need? What are it's critical attributes?  Where do I
>     buy it?
>     >> I do live in Horse country so there are a few stores that cater to
>     >> horse owners and of course I have Tractor Supply, Lowes, Home Dept,
>     >> Grainger, etc. and ???/
>     >>
>     >> I'm looking forward to being educated.
>     >>
>     >> Dean VP
>     >> Snohomish, WA 98290
>     >> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
>     >> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of
>     misery."
>     >> ..Winston Churchill...
>     >>
>     >>
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