[AT] OT - Firefox problems
Mike M
meulenms at gmx.com
Fri Jan 29 11:00:31 PST 2021
I was able to get Firefox fixed last night. I found my profile,
completely deleted Firefox, downloaded a fresh copy, which found my old
profile and I was back in business, after downloading the 3 add-ons that
I use.
Thanks,
Mike M
On 1/29/2021 1:21 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> I’ll jump in here since cybersecurity is what I do for a living and
> browser “hacking” and penetration testing is part of what my
> department does.
>
> Firefox and Brave are neck and neck in the race as to who does the
> most to protect privacy. Firefox’s security features are more
> customizable and therefore continues to get our recommendation. Plus
> as others have mentioned here FIreFox’s UI/UX is a known quantity and
> everyone is used to and comfortable with FF. But Brave is very good
> and certainly a great option.
>
> If you’re really serious about all aspects of security the TOR browser
> is the only way to go but it’s overkill for virtually everyone in my
> humble opinion.
>
> And just to prove all this is not so black-and-white, devices play a
> role too. The browser that protects both your overall security and
> privacy best when using Apple equipment such as a MacBook, is good
> old Safari. Android and Apple devices “sandbox” apps so then any
> browser becomes more secure simply because of the device. Then you
> run it on Windows and suddenly it becomes less secure :-)
>
> https://source.android.com/security/app-sandbox
>
> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/app_sandbox
>
> All things being equal Firefox or Brave for privacy or Safari on Apple
> stuff. Google Chrome and anything built on Google’s chromium engine
> such Microsoft Edge is a distant second.
>
> Spencer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 29, 2021, at 10:00 AM, cgs <oxygenfarm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Linux Mint Mate 19.3, constantly updated, with FF85.
>>
>> On 1/29/21 9:54 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>> I was a Chrome user for years, and heard about Brave maybe 6 months
>>> ago. I decided to give it a try, and I've been running it at work
>>> ever since. I was surprised how similar Brave is to Chrome. One
>>> difference is the little lion symbol in the upper right. That is
>>> the "shield" control. It is working to block malicious sites, and
>>> sometimes goes overboard a bit, so you can hit that symbol and
>>> change the controls for the site in question.
>>>
>>> At home I run Firefox under Linux Mint, whatever version you get
>>> when you do the Linux install. Checked this morning and discovered
>>> it's 85. I understand MikeM's complaint is that the upgrade from 84
>>> caused him to lose all of his customization. Aside from that
>>> serious issue, Firefox 85 seems fine to me.
>>>
>>> SO
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 2:08 AM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Mogrits,
>>> I was able to get Firefox to work again by completely deleting
>>> it. It picked up my original profile by default on the
>>> reinstall. I still have Brave installed on my computer and will
>>> continue to play with it, I'm concerned that Firefox has gotten
>>> to big for their britches.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On 1/29/2021 1:31 AM, Mogrits wrote:
>>>> Mike you seemed to have privacy concerns earlier. I'd recommend
>>>> you try to get used to Brave. I haven't had any adjustment
>>>> issues with Brave. It's a little bit different concept but it
>>>> works great. Every once in a while you'll run into a site that
>>>> won't load because of what it blocks but I don't see that as a
>>>> negative.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 2:24 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Phil, I tried Brave, like Mogrits suggested, but just
>>>> didn't care for how it worked. I'm just too set in my ways.
>>>> Tried Chrome, and although it's different than Firefox, the
>>>> learning curve is shorter, and it still allowed me to us my
>>>> add blocking extensions. I'll be using that for the
>>>> foreseeable future. Avoid Firefox 85 like the plague.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/28/2021 11:05 AM, Phil Auten wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike, Thanks for the heads up on the Firefox update. I
>>>>> will second the recommendation on DuckDuckGo as the search
>>>>> engine, helps out a bunch on blocking ads and pop up
>>>>> windows too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil in TX
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/27/2021 11:53 PM, Mike M wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks, I'll give it a shot, I had FF working like a well
>>>>>> oiled machine until the update, that's what irritates me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/28/2021 12:23 AM, Mogrits wrote:
>>>>>>> Download Brave Browser and set DuckDuckGo as your search
>>>>>>> engine, since you are starting from scratch you have
>>>>>>> nothing to lose. I think you will love it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 10:19 PM Mike M
>>>>>>> <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately it's not, so i guess I start from
>>>>>>> ground zero.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/26/2021 8:42 PM, Howard Pletcher wrote:
>>>>>>>> If you did a Delete to get rid of the new version,
>>>>>>>> it may be in your recycle bin.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you did an Uninstall, then probably not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Howard
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 8:18 PM Mike M
>>>>>>>> <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 85Hi Guys, Ok after getting my old profile back
>>>>>>>> I didn't like Firefox 85 at all with all the
>>>>>>>> tiles and what not, it looked like Windows 10.
>>>>>>>> So I foolishly deleted Firefox 85 and was
>>>>>>>> hoping to download 84, which I was happy with.
>>>>>>>> I then realized I had NO browser. After
>>>>>>>> dredging up and old computer I was able to
>>>>>>>> download a copy of Firefox to a memory card and
>>>>>>>> get a browser back on my computer. Now however
>>>>>>>> it seems that none of the profiles contain all
>>>>>>>> my bookmarks and passwords. Like I said before
>>>>>>>> there is a file on my desktop that is called
>>>>>>>> "old firefox data" is there a way i can create
>>>>>>>> a new profile to restore my bookmarks and
>>>>>>>> passwords from that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/26/2021 5:53 PM, Stuart Harner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, that is just Firefox just trying to
>>>>>>>>> collect all your data on their servers just
>>>>>>>>> like Microsoft and Google. There is money in data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They claim it is to make things easier for the
>>>>>>>>> user. But I DON’T want all my various
>>>>>>>>> computers to have the same profile! There are
>>>>>>>>> separate computers for a reason and a single
>>>>>>>>> profile is not one of them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FF is nice but it is getting more big brother
>>>>>>>>> with each “upgrade”.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> YMMV
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:*AT
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
>>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Ken Knierim
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2021 4:11 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AT] OT - Firefox problems
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm running the new version (84 or 85) of
>>>>>>>>> Firefox... speed is a LOT better on the new
>>>>>>>>> one (matching or exceeding Chrome on several
>>>>>>>>> benchmarks with far better security) but it's
>>>>>>>>> got some quirks. They are pushing into using
>>>>>>>>> the firefox accounts where you log into
>>>>>>>>> firefox; when I did this I ended up with my
>>>>>>>>> bookmarks showing up from my home computer
>>>>>>>>> (Linux Centos 7) and my work computer (Winders
>>>>>>>>> 10) all added together. I'm not sure how it's
>>>>>>>>> supposed to work but that's what I ended up
>>>>>>>>> with. This MAY help, but it could have also
>>>>>>>>> been a Microsoft update (meaning MS blew some
>>>>>>>>> things away for "security reasons").
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 2:44 PM Mike M
>>>>>>>>> <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, sorry for the off topic post, but I
>>>>>>>>> have a real problem. My computer
>>>>>>>>> updated to Firefox 85 last night, and now
>>>>>>>>> ALL my bookmarks are gone,
>>>>>>>>> should I just delete 85 and reinstall an
>>>>>>>>> older version. There is a new
>>>>>>>>> new folder on my desktop called old
>>>>>>>>> Firefox data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>>>>
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