[AT] OT - Firefox problems

Mike M meulenms at gmx.com
Fri Jan 29 11:00:31 PST 2021


I was able to get Firefox fixed last night. I found my profile,
completely deleted Firefox, downloaded a fresh copy, which found my old
profile and I was back in business, after downloading the 3 add-ons that
I use.

Thanks,
Mike M


On 1/29/2021 1:21 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> I’ll jump in here since cybersecurity is what I do for a living and
> browser “hacking” and penetration testing is part of what my
> department does.
>
> Firefox and Brave are neck and neck in the race as to who does the
> most to protect privacy. Firefox’s security features are more
> customizable and therefore continues to get our recommendation.  Plus
> as  others have mentioned here FIreFox’s UI/UX is a known quantity and
> everyone is used to and comfortable with FF. But Brave is very good
> and certainly a great option.
>
> If you’re really serious about all aspects of security the TOR browser
> is the only way to go but it’s overkill for virtually everyone in my
> humble opinion.
>
> And just to prove all this is not so black-and-white, devices play a
> role too.   The browser that protects both your overall security and
> privacy best when using Apple equipment  such as a MacBook, is good
> old Safari.  Android and Apple devices “sandbox” apps so then any
> browser becomes more secure simply because of the device.  Then you
> run it on Windows and suddenly it becomes less secure :-)
>
> https://source.android.com/security/app-sandbox
>
> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/app_sandbox
>
> All things being equal Firefox or Brave for privacy or Safari on Apple
> stuff.  Google Chrome and anything built on Google’s chromium engine
> such Microsoft Edge is a distant second.
>
> Spencer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 29, 2021, at 10:00 AM, cgs <oxygenfarm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Linux Mint Mate 19.3, constantly updated, with FF85.
>>
>> On 1/29/21 9:54 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>> I was a Chrome user for years, and heard about Brave maybe 6 months
>>> ago.  I decided to give it a try, and I've been running it at work
>>> ever since.  I was surprised how similar Brave is to Chrome.  One
>>> difference is the little lion symbol in the upper right.  That is
>>> the "shield" control. It is working to block malicious sites, and
>>> sometimes goes overboard a bit, so you can hit that symbol and
>>> change the controls for the site in question.
>>>
>>> At home I run Firefox under Linux Mint, whatever version you get
>>> when you do the Linux install. Checked this morning and discovered
>>> it's 85.  I understand MikeM's complaint is that the upgrade from 84
>>> caused him to lose all of his customization.  Aside from that
>>> serious issue, Firefox 85 seems fine to me.
>>>
>>> SO
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 2:08 AM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Thanks Mogrits,
>>>     I was able to get Firefox to work again by completely deleting
>>>     it. It picked up my original profile by default on the
>>>     reinstall. I still have Brave installed on my computer and will
>>>     continue to play with it, I'm concerned that Firefox has gotten
>>>     to big for their britches.
>>>
>>>     Best Regards,
>>>     Mike M
>>>
>>>     On 1/29/2021 1:31 AM, Mogrits wrote:
>>>>     Mike you seemed to have privacy concerns earlier. I'd recommend
>>>>     you try to get used to Brave. I haven't had any adjustment
>>>>     issues with Brave. It's a little bit different concept but it
>>>>     works great. Every once in a while you'll run into a site that
>>>>     won't load because of what it blocks but I don't see that as a
>>>>     negative.
>>>>
>>>>     On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 2:24 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>>     <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Hi Phil, I tried Brave, like Mogrits suggested, but just
>>>>         didn't care for how it worked. I'm just too set in my ways.
>>>>         Tried Chrome, and although it's different than Firefox, the
>>>>         learning curve is shorter, and it still allowed me to us my
>>>>         add blocking extensions. I'll be using that for the
>>>>         foreseeable future. Avoid Firefox 85 like the plague.
>>>>
>>>>         Regards,
>>>>         Mike M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On 1/28/2021 11:05 AM, Phil Auten wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Mike, Thanks for the heads up on the Firefox update. I
>>>>>         will second the recommendation on DuckDuckGo as the search
>>>>>         engine, helps out a bunch on blocking ads and pop up
>>>>>         windows too.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Phil in TX
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 1/27/2021 11:53 PM, Mike M wrote:
>>>>>>         Thanks, I'll give it a shot, I had FF working like a well
>>>>>>         oiled machine until the update, that's what irritates me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Regards,
>>>>>>         Mike M
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On 1/28/2021 12:23 AM, Mogrits wrote:
>>>>>>>         Download Brave Browser and set DuckDuckGo as your search
>>>>>>>         engine, since you are starting from scratch you have
>>>>>>>         nothing to lose. I think you will love it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 10:19 PM Mike M
>>>>>>>         <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Unfortunately it's not, so i guess I start from
>>>>>>>             ground zero.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Mike M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             On 1/26/2021 8:42 PM, Howard Pletcher wrote:
>>>>>>>>             If you did a Delete to get rid of the new version,
>>>>>>>>             it may be in your recycle bin.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             If you did an Uninstall, then probably not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Howard
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 8:18 PM Mike M
>>>>>>>>             <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 85Hi Guys, Ok after getting my old profile back
>>>>>>>>                 I didn't like Firefox 85 at all with all the
>>>>>>>>                 tiles and what not, it looked like Windows 10.
>>>>>>>>                 So I foolishly deleted Firefox 85 and was
>>>>>>>>                 hoping to download 84, which I was happy with.
>>>>>>>>                 I then realized I had NO browser. After
>>>>>>>>                 dredging up and old computer I was able to
>>>>>>>>                 download a copy of Firefox to a memory card and
>>>>>>>>                 get a browser back on my computer. Now however
>>>>>>>>                 it seems that none of the profiles contain all
>>>>>>>>                 my bookmarks and passwords. Like I said before
>>>>>>>>                 there is a file on my desktop that is called
>>>>>>>>                 "old firefox data" is there a way i can create
>>>>>>>>                 a new profile to restore my bookmarks and
>>>>>>>>                 passwords from that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 Thanks, Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 On 1/26/2021 5:53 PM, Stuart Harner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 No, that is just Firefox just trying to
>>>>>>>>>                 collect all your data on their servers just
>>>>>>>>>                 like Microsoft and Google. There is money in data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 They claim it is to make things easier for the
>>>>>>>>>                 user. But I DON’T want all my various
>>>>>>>>>                 computers to have the same profile! There are
>>>>>>>>>                 separate computers for a reason and a single
>>>>>>>>>                 profile is not one of them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 FF is nice but it is getting more big brother
>>>>>>>>>                 with each “upgrade”.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 YMMV
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 *From:*AT
>>>>>>>>>                 [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
>>>>>>>>>                 *On Behalf Of *Ken Knierim
>>>>>>>>>                 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2021 4:11 PM
>>>>>>>>>                 *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>>>>>>>>                 *Subject:* Re: [AT] OT - Firefox problems
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 Mike,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 I'm running the new version (84 or 85) of
>>>>>>>>>                 Firefox... speed is a LOT better on the new
>>>>>>>>>                 one (matching or exceeding Chrome on several
>>>>>>>>>                 benchmarks with far better security) but it's
>>>>>>>>>                 got some quirks. They are pushing into using
>>>>>>>>>                 the firefox accounts where you log into
>>>>>>>>>                 firefox; when I did this I ended up with my
>>>>>>>>>                 bookmarks showing up from my home computer
>>>>>>>>>                 (Linux Centos 7) and my work computer (Winders
>>>>>>>>>                 10) all added together. I'm not sure how it's
>>>>>>>>>                 supposed to work but that's what I ended up
>>>>>>>>>                 with. This MAY help, but it could have also
>>>>>>>>>                 been a Microsoft update (meaning MS blew some
>>>>>>>>>                 things away for "security reasons").
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 Hope this helps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 Ken
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 2:44 PM Mike M
>>>>>>>>>                 <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>
>>>>>>>>>                 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                     OK, sorry for the off topic post, but I
>>>>>>>>>                     have a real problem. My computer
>>>>>>>>>                     updated to Firefox 85 last night, and now
>>>>>>>>>                     ALL my bookmarks are gone,
>>>>>>>>>                     should I just delete 85 and reinstall an
>>>>>>>>>                     older version. There is a new
>>>>>>>>>                     new folder on my desktop called old
>>>>>>>>>                     Firefox data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                     Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>                     Mike M
>>>>>>>>>
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