[AT] O.T. whan flu vaccine?

[Carl Gogol]

Thanks Mitch  -  Super useful

Carl 

Manlius, NY

 

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I just got this from a friend who is an epidemiologist at the Army's Ft.
Dietrick Research center.

 

Mitch Daly
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Long term effects?  Maybe, but at 71 maybe I am not as concerned as I would
be at 41.  Extra fast development speed was a true concern.  But, these
first two approved for emergency use a totally different approach than prior
vaccine developments used.  Messenger RNA technology is somewhat new but is
able to be extremely targeted to features found only in the SARS covid 2
beasts chat cause COVID-19.  95% of long term vaccine complications show up
in the first two months of testing.  I'm naturally very conservative
regarding these issues but think that a highly efficient vaccine is the only
thing that will get our lives back to normal and we want it ASAP.
Carl
Manlius, NY

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Getting vaccinated does not mean that the virus will disappear, it is in the
environment and will be forever. Viruses on everyday surfaces don't die
because you were vaccinated. Getting vaccinated only means that you won't
get sick from it, or won't get as sick. The yearly flus come and go twice a
year, this one seems to stick around all year. The flus migrate around the
globe as seasons and ambient conditions change, it's not that they totally
die off during certain times of the year. There was a diagram somewhere that
showed how viruses move around the globe as seasons change. Once the virus
is under control, we will probably fall into the misbelief that we
eradicated it, but that will be the same misbelief we have about viruses
like small pox and a host of other viruses. We were vaccinated against them,
but every now and then a case shows up somewhere in the world. I believe
there was a case of small pox a year or two ago somewhere in a mid-western
state.

 There will be those who will refuse to get vaccinated, may get the virus
and not have any symptoms, and will become spreaders. How long they will be
spreaders hasn't been addressed yet, so it simply could be until they're
diagnosed the next time they need medical attention, or maybe a lifetime. 

Another question that I don't think has been addressed is whether we will
need to get vaccinated every year like we do for the everyday flus. And what
if the virus keeps mutating? How long will the current vaccine be effective?

A lot to learn before we're totally out of the woods, or at least near the
edge of the woods.

Carl


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Keep in mind that the vaccines require a 2nd dose to achieve proper
immunity.   The need for the second dose complicates the scheduling.

In any case, my wife has been urged by her doc NOT to get the vaccine, at
least not yet.  There remain too many unanswered questions about
interactions with some drugs and her autoimmune disorders.

To assume that we all get a magic shot and everything is all better is
unrealistic.  We'll be living with the repercussions of this disease for a
long time, alas!

On a positive note, I haven't seem to have caught any of the ailments my old
JDs have--I'm not rusting, and I'm not dented, and I'm not faded.  Of
course, I do have a little trouble getting started from time to time . . . .
Hmmmmm.

Oh, and there's that compulsion to spend money on them.

The "original" Steve Allen
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