[AT] Air compressor failure

Thu Dec 9 19:12:11 PST 2021

Mark,

Thanks for the comments.  It does take a little longer than maybe it used to to get to 135 lbs. But I cycled it a few times, some while the pump was still hot and also from a cold start and it reliably shuts off at around 135 lbs  each time.  So since it is not my compressor I not going to try to fix anything that currently isn’t broken.   But I will keep the heirs(3 sons) aware of the solution of setting the cut out pressure a little lower if this problem pops up again.

I have repeatedly thought about making a reliable air and also a hydraulic pressure test gauge,  But I have never gotten a round to it to finish that task. Need t get my act together on that. I recently tested an East Indian made tractor temperature gauge.   Water must boil at a different temperature over there.  The subject gauge read 190 degrees in a boiling pan of water.   Only off by 22 degrees.   It is well known in the JD Collecting environment that US Evergreen Industries is the only company making reliable gauges.  The oil gauge I replaced with an Evergreen gauge read 5 psi when the EG read 12psi.   Fixed my low oil pressure problem on my tractor by changing gauges. -😊 

Dean VP

Snohomish, WA 98290

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

..Winston Churchill...

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A couple observations from working on air compressors & shop air systems:

1) the pressure relief valves are often (not always) stamped with the pressure they are supposed to pop off at, which is normally higher than the cutout setting on the pressure switch and lower than the tank rating. YMMV

2) I suspect (as have others here) that the pump probably has too many miles on it and is having trouble developing the last bit of pressure to reach the cutout setting. I have picked up a few "broken" compressors for a song over the years that wouldn't shut off. A quick easy "fix" to get them back working is to adjust the cutout setting down a few psi until it functions again. This is a 'band-aid" fix for a worn out pump but it will usually buy you some more run time on an old machine. I'd explore this option first. Most of the time I need air, I don't need the full psi the compressor was built for.

3) don't always trust the gauge on the compressor. Many big box store machines use cheap gauges that are fairly inaccurate, sometimes to the tune of 5-10 psi. I have a high end glycerine-filled stainless-body 200 psi gauge installed into a tee-fitting that I keep in my toolbox along with a handful of adapters to use to work on air systems. I trust it, and it often reads differently than the ones that come on compressors, especially lower end units.

Mark Greer

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 3:23 PM Jim Becker <mr.jebecker at gmail.com <mailto:mr.jebecker at gmail.com> > wrote:

If it was intended to operate up to 135#, as the giant label on the tank indicates, the relief valve won’t be anywhere near release pressure at 135#.  It probably trips at something more like 165# (just a guess).  In any case, if it is running forever at close to 135# and not building more pressure, the problem has nothing to do with the relief valve.  I would run through some of the checks others have suggested (oil level, clean intake filter, sticky parts inside pressure switch, etc.).  If running through those checks doesn’t solve the problem, I’d assume that wear is making it hard/impossible to reach 135#.  Then adjust it down to about 120# cut-out pressure.  Run it that way and let the heirs decide on final disposition.

Back to your original question,  take the cover off the switch (1 or 2 screws hold it).  Look inside.  Instructions for setting the pressure are often on a sticker on the cover or molded directly into the cover.  There are usually 2 adjustments.  One is the cut-out pressure (or maybe cut-in) while the other is often a setting for the DIFFERENCE between cut-in and cut-out.  Keep track of how much you turn them.  If things get worse, you will know how far to turn things to get back to where you started.

Jim Becker

From: deanvp at att.net <mailto:deanvp at att.net>  

Sent: Monday, December 06, 2021 10:57 PM

To: 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group' 

Subject: [AT] Air compressor failure

Need some help relative to a Husky 60 gallon , 7 HP air compressor.  I am shop sitting the shop in AZ of my recently deceased friend until his three sons can decide what they are going to do with the 10 tractors, 5 highly modified garden tractors and a fully stocked shop with a huge quantity of hand tools.  In return for doing the shop sitting I get to use the shop to do the work on my 1935 JD B and JD Garden Tractor.  Upon the very first entry I noticed the air compressor was running too long. I shut the breaker off and am not trying to figure out of there is something I can do to fix it. My first thought is the pressure switch isn’t working right.   But….   I have never worked on this version. Attached is the picture of the air compressor. I have not yet found a operators manual or service manual to guide me through some trouble shooting.  I am pretty sure this was working at least up to the end of August and then my friend got confined to the house due to illness  and eventually died October 6.   I arrived in the middle of November to take first use of the shop again.  So the compressor sat unused for at least  couple months which may have something to do with it not working now.  It does pump up to 135 lbs pressure but does not shut off.  I set my compressor at home to shit off at 120 PSI.   So 135PSI seems high to me.   If I open the pressure switch is there some adjustments in there or is it maybe just stuck that needs to be unstuck?    Anyone with experience with this brand of air compressor?  I don’t want to create more expense because I don’t know what I am doing.   Here is a picture. Note: The red dial on top of the pressure control does work in that it shuts down the compressor when moved to the Off position. When moved to the Auto position it just continues running.

Dean VP

Snohomish, WA 98290

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