[AT] Backpack leaf blower
Mike M
meulenms at gmx.com
Sat Dec 4 10:26:05 PST 2021
I agree Steve, I need the blower know, even if a piston was and cylinder
were available, it would take forever to get one. Most things made today
with a few exceptions are throw away. How'd you like to be a TV
repairman these days? :)
Thanks,
Mike M
On 12/4/2021 7:00 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> If by "machinist" you're thinking of boring the cylinder and
> installing oversize piston, that's not an option. The plating is
> the show-stopper. I'm shocked by Carl's estimate of $35 for piston
> kit and cylinder... I can take exactly one guess what the country of
> origin is, but still, with all the middlemen and shipping, we're
> talking manufacturing costs in the range of just a few dollars. Good
> luck, and whatever you decide, I hope it is available.
>
> SO
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:01 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve, cylinder is hard plated and is scored on the exhaust
> side. Looks like the engine is toast. It took me me forever to
> tear it down. Looks like a new blower is in my future. It would
> cost me more to have a machinist repair it than to replace it.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike M
>
> On 12/3/2021 7:19 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> I am still curious about the cylinder. Still assuming it has no
>> liner, just hard plating. If all that's true... how's it look?!
>>
>> SO
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 6:49 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Brian and Carl, yes when it dies it will still pull over
>> easily but it will not start. At this point, I've fully torn
>> it down, and the piston is really messed up. Looks like a
>> time for a new one. I have about 2 acres to blow clean, so no
>> 5 minutes Brian LOL.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike M
>>
>>
>> On 12/3/2021 11:41 AM, Carl Szabelski wrote:
>>> When cold, the cylinder is smaller in diameter, so you get
>>> enough compression to start with a worn ring. As it warms up
>>> you start to lose compression as the cylinder expands to the
>>> point where the worn ring no longer provides enough sealing
>>> and it stalls. Now, you may say that the worn ring is also
>>> expanding against the cylinder wall, and it does, but not as
>>> much as it should. It’s also expanding on its internal
>>> surface, so it’s creating a gap at the piston groove,
>>> allowing the piston to essentially flop around. That’s what
>>> allows the piston to hit the cylinder wall once it’s not
>>> being kept centered in the cylinder. You can pull on the
>>> cord and feel what you think is compression, but it’s mostly
>>> resistance from all the other moving pieces.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Brian VanDragt
>>> <bvandragt at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well if you can get your leaves blown in 5 minutes, you
>>> don't have to do anything to it, but you know at least
>>> the piston is scored and you can't replace it without
>>> taking everything else apart. When it quits can you turn
>>> it over with the rope or is it stuck?
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
>>> Date: 12/2/21 10:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower
>>>
>>> Hi Brian it will run, but only for 5 minutes or so, then
>>> it's dead.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On 12/2/2021 10:22 PM, Brian VanDragt wrote:
>>>> No matter what parts are damaged, it's not running now,
>>>> and it's not going to fix itself. Just take it apart
>>>> and see what you need to fix it.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Carl Szabelski <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:c.s.szabelski at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 12/2/21 10:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower
>>>>
>>>> One more thing that you might be able to do is push the
>>>> piston down, pull the spark plug, and try to see the
>>>> wall by looking through the spark plug hole.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Carl Szabelski
>>>> <c.s.szabelski at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you pull the head, you’ll probably find that the
>>>> cylinder wall is also scored. Try pushing the
>>>> piston down and sticking a finger in to see if you
>>>> can feel the wall. Maybe use something like a small
>>>> dental mirror. If the wall is scored you can
>>>> probably get a new one as well.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Mike M
>>>> <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here is the best picture I could get after
>>>> pulling the muffler. Looks like the piston is
>>>> toast. Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Mike M
>>>>
>>>> On 12/2/2021 6:39 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>> So what's the cylinder inside look like?
>>>>> Can you save it?
>>>>> Husqvarna trimmer is well worth the repair costs.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 3:11 PM Mike M
>>>>> <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So I pulled apart my leaf blower today,
>>>>> and looked at the exhaust port, as was
>>>>> suggested. Heavy scoring on the piston. So
>>>>> you were right, she ran it with straight fuel.
>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/27/2021 7:20 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>>> No, engine has experienced a lean seizure.
>>>>>> Lack of lube is another way to put it.
>>>>>> No quick fix.
>>>>>> The engine will need a piston and rings
>>>>>> at the least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pull off the muffler, look in at the
>>>>>> piston, you’ll see the piston scored on
>>>>>> the exhaust side.
>>>>>> If you’re lucky the cylinder isn’t
>>>>>> damaged, you’ll have to
>>>>>> pull the cylinder to check it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Used to do 15 or 20 of those every year.
>>>>>> One quick error, sometimes, can cost a
>>>>>> lot of money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 15:33 Mike M
>>>>>> <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So my lovely wife was out blowing
>>>>>> leaves the other day with my backpack
>>>>>> blower, and it ran out of fuel. She
>>>>>> mistakenly filled it with straight
>>>>>> lawnmower gas, and after a bit it
>>>>>> started to stumble and then quit. She
>>>>>> came in to tell me about it and ask
>>>>>> what the problem was. When I looked
>>>>>> at the tank I noticed there was no
>>>>>> blue tint in the gas, and I asked her
>>>>>> what can she filled it from, and she
>>>>>> pointed to the gas container I use
>>>>>> for my zero turn. I told her that was
>>>>>> straight gas, and she needed to
>>>>>> use the 2 cycle mix, that is in
>>>>>> another red 5 gallon can, honest
>>>>>> mistake. She claims I told her to use
>>>>>> that fuel, when I know I did not.
>>>>>> I used it today and it will run for
>>>>>> about 5 minutes and then sputter out
>>>>>> and die, like it's running out of
>>>>>> gas. It will restart, but then the
>>>>>> same scenario starts all over again.
>>>>>> Is their any chance of saving this
>>>>>> engine? Maybe a higher oil/gas ratio?
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>>
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