[AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera recommendation

Fri Aug 20 20:32:29 PDT 2021

ABS systems do no lock up the brake system like the older brake systems
did. When applied, they actually apply the brakes on and off, so your
brakes are applied, backed off, applied, backed off...... all at a high
rate. This allows for better steering control when hitting the brakes and
trying to turn the wheel to avoid something, like what you did. Allowing
the tire to rotate a little when your turning during a hard brake lets the
vehicle follow the wheels, not slide straight forward. This is especially
important on wet, snowy, or icy roads. Some people experience a pulsating
feeling when doing a hard stop. If you drive really fast and hit the breaks
hard, you still can leave tire marks, but not as long or heavy. You’ve
probably noticed that you don’t hear as much tire screeching nowadays, just
the sound of the collision impact. ABS systems at work.

The ABS system also works with the ECS system to help steering by
monitoring the speed of each tire to help keep the vehicle going where it’s
being steered. A problem with one affects the other. You can still drive
with an ABS or ECS fault indication as long as you realize your braking and
steering are not working 100% like they should. Just drive more cautiously.

Carl

On Friday, August 20, 2021, Bo Hinch <bohinch at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is what I found on my search of dashcams in Washington State
> *Dash cameras themselves are not illegal in Washington state*. However,
> there are other considerations. The placement of the camera in that you are
> required by statute to have an “unobstructed” view through your front
> windshield.
>  The dashcam that I have mounted in my truck is actually attached to the ,
> and part of the , rear view mirror with only a small wire to plug into the
> cigarette lighter .
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 5:58 PM <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks every one for your comments and suggestions. I didn’t do certain
>> things at the accident site I should have. But… let me tell you I was more
>> than a little shook up. In those last few seconds while trying to miss him
>> your mind goes into overdrive thinking terrible things.   I think I did a
>> damned good job of minimizing the damage both to his truck as well as
>> mine.  If I had rear ended him is suspect both trucks would have been
>> totaled with the possibility of some injuries.  So having the sense under
>> pressure to drive to the right to miss him and not hit the trees was pretty
>> good for this old man.   But…. I wasn’t thinking very good when it came
>> time to get pictures of the scene and of various documents.  I have a
>> perfectly good Smart Phone but I resorted to hand writing all information.
>> There were two factors that confused things for me.  He left the scene of
>> the accident for a short time so the actual accident scene had already been
>> compromised and it was pitch black with no moon or the moon was covered
>> with clouds. It was really dark.  So I resorted to a flashlight. Forgetting
>> that my Android phone has a flash etc.  I’ll admit I was a bit shook up. My
>> mind had contemplated something much worse. I wasn’t thinking 100% straight
>> anymore. The strange part is I cannot find any evidence of the collision at
>> the site in daylight. I cannot find any pieces of car parts, or plastic or
>> anything.  I’m now thinking it has been stripped of any evidence.  I’ve
>> been up and down the road at several driveways and cannot find a thing.
>> That really bothers me.  I also am a bit confused about how ABS brakes
>> work, I was on the brake pedal as hard as can be but I never left a skid
>> mark on the asphalt road.  I know ABS is supposed to find the maximum
>> traction when braking but as hard as I was on the brake pedal I don’t quite
>> understand why is didn’t leave a mark.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dean VP
>>
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel
>> of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>>
>> ..Winston Churchill...
>>
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>> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *
>> deanvp at att.net
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2021 10:27 PM
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>> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera
>> recommendation
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry to change the subject but I have a little challenge right now. My
>> antique Tractor puller P/U and I were in a little fender bender incident
>> recently which has become very complex since  the other driver gave me all
>> false data as to who he was, where he lived, how to contact him  and
>> whether he was insured or not.  Other than that things are going well.
>> After about 5 days of online investigation my wife and I tracked him down
>> and have a working cell phone number for him.  I’ve talked to him and we
>> have exchanged several text messages but I still don’t know where he lives
>> and who his insurance company is. I gave him my insurance company verbally
>> at the accident but he seems to have forgotten it and now repeatedly asks
>> for who the company is. I refuse to give it to him until I get a valid
>> insurance company name from him.  All he will talk about is getting his
>> truck fixed.  And that the accident was my fault. To add more stupid stuff
>> to this whole fiasco he is now claiming injury which is a crock of cow
>> dung.
>>
>>
>>
>> He backed out of a blind driveway onto the road heading in the same
>> direction as I was.  This was at about 9:45PM and it was pitch black dark
>> with no street lights way out in the country.  I only noticed the
>> reflection of my headlights off of the side of his black Dodge Pick Up. No
>> tail lights, no back up lights, no brake lights, no running lights, no
>> lights of any sort. I immediately slammed on the brakes and started
>> steering and braking to the right  of his truck which was now close to
>> being in the right orientation to head down the road. I saw the eye of a
>> needle to try to get between the truck and the trees at the driveway exit.
>> Well, I came to a stop right after brushing the side of his truck and
>> messing up my left fender. I got close to threading the needle.  Could have
>> been a pretty violent rear-ender otherwise.   But as you might expect he is
>> now blaming me and I hit him therefore I am at fault.  I have no witnesses
>> to prove what happened.  I’ve informed my insurance Co and filed a
>> collision report with the Washington State Patrol.  I’m pretty sure he is
>> an uninsured driver which is illegal in our state. In my investigation
>> tracking him down I have been told he is involved in illicit  drugs and he
>> DOES have a criminal record..  So…. Due to this I am looking for a dash
>> camera to mount on our vehicles so I don’t have to go through this
>> situation of not having proof again.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I’m looking for Dash Camera suggestions for my 2003 Ford F250 and a
>> 2016 Buick L:acrosse.  I usually don’t buy the fancy stuff I just get the
>> basics  in a good product that are needed.    Suggestions would be
>> appreciated???? I’ve had one recommended to me and that is a Rove 4 but I
>> know nothing about it yet.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Dean VP
>>
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel
>> of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>>
>> ..Winston Churchill...
>>
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