[AT] [External] Re: Something to do

[John Hall]

Tyler, you put over 60 hours on a show tractor in the past year? Wow, I 
don't log that many on some of the ones we use around the farm!!! Glad 
to see you are enjoying it!

John Hall


On 9/20/2020 2:44 PM, Tyler Juranek wrote:
> Hi,
> I would like to throw my $0.02 in here also.
> Every now and again my father will buy different tractors at sales and
> bring them home, some to keep and some to resell. Most of the ones
> that had all new tires, paint, etc, were mechanically rough. One of
> the exceptions is when we found my 770 Oliver.
> It was one of those deals where, I hadn't seen it up close, but my
> father knew the guy to be a pretty straight guy in terms of honesty.
> He said the tractor was all done, end to end, new pistons, sleves,
> rings, pins, rod bearings, injectors, pump, you get the idea. At that
> point I was still struggling with my oliver 88, and so my wallet
> didn't feel very fat. A "father/son loan" was certainly in order. So
> the agreement was that if it got here, and it made it through my
> tractor ride, I'd continue to pay on it. If I had a ton of stuff to
> fix afterword, then it'd be sold.
> Before it was loaded on a semi to come here, the guy I bought it from
> took it to an antique tractor pull for me. That's certainly a good way
> to see if it'll hold up. Sure enough, it held up great. It got here,
> and I was surprised to find that everything was about perfect,
> including the lights, gages, etc. The only thing that didn't work was
> the fuel gage. That was not a really big deal to me as there was a
> manual one on the tank.
> So, I took it on a preliminary ride before my ride for eyesight
> research in 2019. The only thing I had to do to it was put a new oil
> sending unit in, because when I was about 29 miles in, it slobbered a
> ton of oil out, and when I came back from eating lunch to finish the
> ride, it was a quart short. It was a simple $10 part, and I have had
> it on at least 5 rides since. When it got here in July of 2019, it had
> 6 hours on the tach for the overhaul. Now, it just turned 70
> yesterday.
> When I was looking for tractors last summer, several 770s were
> available. One was up by Sioux City, Iowa for $3500. Checkerboard
> grill, gas, halfway decent paint job, but a ridiculously loud rearend.
> For $500 more, I bought the one I have now that's diesel, and it is
> way better quality. So, my point here is that just because something
> looks halfway nice, start it up and listen to it run. Feel the tires.
> Feel the PTO shields and shafts. (not when engaged, lol). Feel how the
> steering is. How does the clutch feel when let out? You get the idea.
> The key word here, feel. Then again, I have never had eyesight, so
> maybe "just looking" is ok for the sighted world. For me, it's all
> about the mechanicals. Worry about the paint job later.
>
> Re the paint job: When dad had his Farmall 966 with a narrow front
> repainted after the overhaul, it cost $2300. That not only was for the
> paint, but he also got aftermarket steps, handles on the fenders, grab
> handles, etc. It is very nice now.
> I also thought I would mention that much can be done to current paint
> jobs with certain types of wax and rubbing compounds. During the
> pandemic when my clinic was closed, I spent a ton of time detailing my
> 770 to buff up the paint on it. I used a ton of wax and things on it.
> One day the neighbor came on over here (one who we see often), and
> exclaimed, "Tyler, that's a nice tractor! Is it new?"
> He was the guy who was here when it came off the truck. Basically, a
> little wax went a long way, and that thing looks better now than it
> did the day it showed up here.
> Just my $0.02 worth. I know that there a ton of you on here of whom
> know way more about these things than me, and I am open to hearing
> more regarding painting.
> Take Care, and thanks for reading,
> Tyler Juranek
> IA
>
> On 9/20/20, szabelski at wildblue.net <szabelski at wildblue.net> wrote:
>> When I was doing the rebuild on the Cub last winter, I carried all the parts
>> down into the basement were it was warm enough to paint. Some were a little
>> on the heavy side, but nothing I couldn’t handle with a little effort. I
>> painted with a brush, not a spray gun. The paint came out near perfect, just
>> a matter of using a quality brush and getting the paint to the right
>> thickness (thinness) so that it flowed and leveled itself. There is one
>> place where I did get a run due to getting distracted by a phone call.
>> Unless you know it’s there, you can’t see it. I’m letting it go since
>> Farmalls came with drips and runs due to the heavy spraying that was done at
>> the factory. So I guess I can say that my paint job is more original looking
>> than a professional job.
>>
>> Next summer the H will be getting the same work, will just cost more and
>> take a little longer, especially since it’s older and has more rust to take
>> care of. The only difference is that I’ll be doing all the work in the
>> garage and won’t be carrying all those bigger parts down into the basement.
>> Way too big and heavy!
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com>
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Sent: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:22:51 -0400 (EDT)
>> Subject: Re: [AT] [External] Re: Something to do
>>
>> Same reason why so many cars are over-restored. As long as someone is
>> not butchering a rare machine (car, truck,tractor) then I say go for it
>> and pour all the time an money you want in it. I'll admire it like it
>> was some sort of artwork. As for me and my wallet, I still won't pour
>> more money (if I can help it) into a machine than what I can sell it for
>> (not counting labor).
>>
>> John Hall
>>
>> On 9/19/2020 11:17 PM, Gunnells, Brad R wrote:
>>> It just puzzles me why someone's Farmall H has to have a paint job
>>> that rivals their Corvette......
>>>
>>> Brad
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