[AT] Another Hurricane now CA Fires

Mon Sep 14 06:44:30 PDT 2020

Agree that raking the forest would be an impossible task, one that would have to be done every year. How long would it take one person to rake an acre? Could you get enough people to get it even half way done before you had to start over?

Fires actually are good for the forest as they help promote new growth. The problem is the number of fires that occur at one time. Some are started naturally by lightning strikes, and there’s nothing you can do to prevent them. But the real issue is the ones started by humans.  Campfires that get out of control, fireworks and gender reveal parties that use pyrotechnics during an extremely dry season, and of course, arsonists. Not much you can do about them since they’re an issue of stupidity or malice. You can’t fix stupid. I’m sure that most people in California realize the potential risks of starting any kind of fire during an extremely dry season, but there’s always those that think they know what their doing and that they won’t burn the state down.

Carl

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Anyone who thinks you can "rake the forests" has no concept of the volume of brush and fuel involved and the acres. It can't be raked and logging does no good. The only way it can be cleaned up is fire. The federal lands they will likely let burn. They will try to protect settlements and buildings if possible. Here in Mariposa County parcel size is 5 acres or more. When we get a big fire they do a pretty good job and few houses are lost.
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>How long would take you to rake an acre of woodland and carry the 
>debris to a pickup site? I'm not even going to ask how much debris
>per acre and how it could be safely disposed of, environmentally.
>Tom
> On 14 September 2020 at 14:23  szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
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> That being the case, didn’t somebody suggest earlier that they rake up all the leaves and branches to prevent fires. If they did they could put them in a big pile and burn them before a fire started. What could go wrong?
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> Carl
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>>>> 57% of forestry in California is federally owned (19 million acres out of 33 million)
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>>>> the state of California owns 1 million acres...
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>> Makes for interesting responsibility...
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> Tom
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> On 14 September 2020 at 09:48 Mike M < meulenms at gmx.com> wrote: \
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> Lack of managed forestry.
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> On 9/13/2020 1:19 PM,  bradloomis at charter.net mailto:bradloomis at charter.net wrote:
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> The closest to me is the Dolan fire (Big Sur), intentionally set, which is over 117,000 acres with 40% containment. A week ago we had the worst air in the world. Now that honor has moved north, but this morning and every morning when I go outside that is the aroma, smoke. Cars are covered in ash. I've lived in California since 58, here in Morro Bay since 79 and this is by far the worst I've seen. Many landmarks are no more.
> https://www.latimes.com/wildfires-map/?utm_source=sfmc_100035609&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=30759+Today%27s+Headlines+9%2f08%2f20&utm_term=https%3a%2f%2fwww.latimes.com%2fwildfires-map%2f&utm_id=13437&sfmc_id=1570448 https://www.latimes.com/wildfires-map/?utm_source=sfmc_100035609&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=30759+Today%27s+Headlines+9%2f08%2f20&utm_term=https%3a%2f%2fwww.latimes.com%2fwildfires-map%2f&utm_id=13437&sfmc_id=1570448
> Brad
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> And they say that we’re only half way through the season. Anybody hear about damage/losses from the California and Oregon fires?
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> Carl
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> Looks like Louisiana stands a good chance of getting another Hurricane.
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> I wish every one luck.  Trouble does come in threes.
> Tom in Waller Tx.
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