[AT] Another Hurricane

Sun Sep 13 16:00:24 PDT 2020

Don’t know what their forestry management system is, but the winds and mountainous terrain don’t help. The wind spreads embers great distances, and the valleys and mountains don’t allow them to get equipment where it does some good. 

In 1871 the upper half of the lower peninsula of Michigan burned down to the ground because of the Great Chicago fire. The winds that fanned the fire in Chicago carried embers clear across Lake Michigan (northeasterly) and ignited fires all over the northern part of the state. That’s a long way for a wind to carry embers. More people were killed in that fire then were killed in the Chicago fire, even though the Chicago fire was localized, and the Michigan fire was spread over such a large area.

In Michigan we cut fire lanes in the forests that allow water trucks and other necessary equipment to get directly to any fire that may start. The lanes are cut to create large squares so that a fire team can get to a fire and fight it from all four sides if necessary. We can do that because we don’t have the large number of mountains and valleys that California has. I doubt that even if they tried to create fire lanes like Michigan, they would be able to create manageable areas that would help. 

Carl

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From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
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Lack of managed forestry.

On 9/13/2020 1:19 PM, bradloomis at charter.net wrote:
> The closest to me is the Dolan fire (Big Sur), intentionally set, which is over 117,000 acres with 40% containment. A week ago we had the worst air in the world. Now that honor has moved north, but this morning and every morning when I go outside that is the aroma, smoke. Cars are covered in ash. I've lived in California since 58, here in Morro Bay since 79 and this is by far the worst I've seen. Many landmarks are no more.
> https://www.latimes.com/wildfires-map/?utm_source=sfmc_100035609&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=30759+Today%27s+Headlines+9%2f08%2f20&utm_term=https%3a%2f%2fwww.latimes.com%2fwildfires-map%2f&utm_id=13437&sfmc_id=1570448
> Brad
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> And they say that we’re only half way through the season. Anybody hear about damage/losses from the California and Oregon fires?
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> Carl
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> Looks like Louisiana stands a good chance of getting another Hurricane.
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> I wish every one luck.  Trouble does come in threes.
> Tom in Waller Tx.
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