[AT] OT, one of those days, a Monday

Tue May 19 16:39:16 PDT 2020

If it is freezer on top the timer is most likely behind the toe kick or back in the compressor compartment. Heck even side by side or freezer on bottom that is where the timer is usually located, the toe kick behind the snap off grill. I've never found one inside the box. I bet you can find a pretty good schematic online at one of the appliance repair sites. At least enough to get you on the right track for parts locations. Of course if the data tag is still intact inside the box. 

-----Original Message-----
From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of Cecil Bearden
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 4:21 PM
To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
Subject: Re: [AT] OT, one of those days, a Monday

The refrigerator is in my Dad's old manuf home.  We are using it while I get the polybutylene plumbing changed over from our home I built in 85.  I did not get in on the class action suit  that awarded 10K for each household.  The pipe does not go bad, it is the fittings.  I have had 3 fitting breaks,  the first one I did not realize it was a problem with the fittings.   After reading the reports on the studies done on the fittings which are acetyl, Chlorine leaches the binder out of the acetyl and the fittings gets very brittle.   The fittings I have replaced are white inside instead of grey like PVC conduit when they are installed.  I have adapted the short runs under cabinets over to PEX with brass adapter fittings.  However, each run in the wall behind a fixture has to have the wall cut out and either repaired or an access plate installed.  I still have to replumb the laundry room, a toilet and sink in the garage, and the run to the icemaker in the kitchen.  Then I have 4 elbows in my mechanical room where everything comes together to replace.

The refrigerator is one that my wife's grandmother bought in about 1984 and replaced the 12 year old one in Dad's home.  The problem is where it sits is in the kitchen passageway to the back door and washer dryer bathroom and everything.  Pulling it out requires a lot of help, and removing it is even worse.  It has to go out the front door.  I will keep the refrig at 36deg or lower. I think the defroster heater element shorted out and stuck the timer or the thermostat switch.  I removed the upper panel in the refrig and did not find the timer.  The pressure of trying to repair it and save whatever is in the refrigerator/freezer and the tight access just makes it a pain to work on.  Especially when I have a 5 hour repair on the New Holland.  I am waiting on the sun to get behind the shade tree so I can finish it....
Farming is easy, it is the other distractions that make it a problem...
Cecil

On 5/19/2020 4:30 PM, Mike M wrote:
> Cecil, I think it's time to insure that thing, and have it get caught 
> in a hay fire. Hypothetically of course.
>
> Mike M
>
>
> On 5/19/2020 4:44 PM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
>> Cecil,
>>
>> If the freezer compartment appears to be working, but the 
>> refrigerator compartment is not, that’s usually a sign that the 
>> evaporator fan has issues. It sounds like you have the fan running, 
>> but maybe there’s something that’s not letting it cool down the 
>> refrigerator compartment enough, like some insulation blocking air 
>> flow, or a dust build.
>>
>> Those 35 year old refrigerators aren’t very good on energy 
>> conservation, so a new one may actually save you money in the long 
>> run. Unfortunately it’s hard to find one that doesn’t have ice and 
>> water dispensers, and aren’t wi-fi connected. But maybe you’ll 
>> appreciate running a water line, changing out filters, and having it 
>> send you reminders that you’re low on eggs, milk and butter, and that 
>> the lettuce is wilted and needs to be tossed out.
>>
>> My wife is not looking forward to replacing our refrigerator in the 
>> future since she doesn’t want any of those bells and whistles. The 
>> last one we purchased took a while to find since we didn’t want water 
>> and ice dispensers. It’s a little bigger than what we need, but we 
>> didn’t want to pay for all the things we didn’t want.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Sent: Tue, 19 May 2020 10:21:34 -0400 (EDT)
>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT, one of those days, a Monday
>>
>> Yesterday started out like any other day.  Wife went to get 
>> necessities, and I was working on cattle chutes to move some of the 
>> 60 head too many we have here.  While moving the panels around and 
>> getting the others that needed to be welded, the A/C on the New Holland money pit quit.
>> Then I noticed the red battery light on the dash.  That meant the fan 
>> belt had broke again.  This one had only 3 hours on it.  A new pulley 
>> was installed at that time. the old one lasted about 14 hours after I 
>> replaced the water pump.  Serpentine belt, not my favorite.. Then 
>> Cowboy the wonder dog had to find a skunk and then forgot that he had 
>> an experience with these stinky things 4 years ago.  This one was 
>> only 40 ft from where i had the New Holland under a shade tree to 
>> work on. When I investigated the fan belt I found the idler pulley I 
>> replaced was looser than the old one. Replacement was plastic, the 
>> old one was steel.  Called Dealership and found that all replacements were plastic.
>> Decided to replace tensioner and all idlers.  Got on internet and 
>> found a listing on Dayco idlers by size.  Found a number then crossed 
>> it over to Napa number and called my small town NAPA, they had it and 
>> the belt, the dealership had the tensioner.
>>
>> Got a big bottle of Dawn and gave Cowboy the wonder dog a bath and 
>> then sprayed with a mixture of peroxide and some odor stuff for dogs.  
>> He is tolerable now.
>>
>> My wife returned from shopping and then advised me that the 
>> refrigerator had quit working.    We moved everything that could be 
>> moved into a freezer and then re-adjusted things into another 
>> refrigerator and ice chest.   Could not find dry ice locally.   I 
>> opened up the evaporator on the freezer and found it was iced over.  
>> thawed everything out and the fan would not run.   Checked with 
>> voltmeter and for some reason power would not get to the fan.  
>> Googled everything and checked again. Ice in the cols had moved the 
>> metal rib on the defroster heater  to short out the wires on the end.   
>> It was not either the defroster thermostat or the timer.  I took off 
>> the lower section in the refrigerator and still could not find the 
>> timer.  I gave up at midnight and decided to find another 
>> refrigerator this morning.  7am this morning the fan is running and 
>> the freezer is cold, but the fridge is only 50deg.  I moved the thermostat tube around and am waiting on it to cool down some more.
>> Not sure to trust it or not.  It is only 35 years old..........
>>
>> The New Holland has to have the radiator removed to replace all the 
>> belt idlers.  I did this last month when I replaced the water pump, 
>> but had the loader off at the time.  This time the loader is on it. 
>> Loads of fun!!!!
>>
>> Cecil
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AT mailing list
>> AT at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AT mailing list
>> AT at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com
>
>
> --
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> AT at lists.antique-tractor.com
> http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com
_______________________________________________
AT mailing list
AT at lists.antique-tractor.com
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com