[AT] New old truck

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Thu Mar 12 20:58:26 PDT 2020


Oklahoma just started having the seller keep the tag when a vehicle is 
sold and when you buy one it gets a new tag.   That may be the way we 
get around it.  My wife may be owning a lot of them or I may have to put 
it in the farm name.  I have to check how to do it.  Guys had been going 
to a title consultant who would file something with the state and it 
still cost $300..
Cecil

On 3/12/2020 10:46 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
> It's an arm and a leg to re-plate one that has been un-plated for 
> several years here too. All excise taxes, wheel taxes  etc. but I 
> found a way around it and have used it a few times. Title processing 
> is reasonable and if you just sell it everything starts over clean. 
> Nothing due to the state. Scott owns a few things now. Any vehicles 
> and trailers all go to him anyway so I am slowly transferring stuff 
> into his name now. Most of my stuff is old and of fairly low value so 
> they don't really care about it.
> I once had to have a police check of a title for an old trailer I 
> bought for $200. When the officer stopped out he just signed the 
> paper. He said "We don't care what you do with a $200 trailer..."  
> :-)  In KY they don't even plate small trailers. Here they plate any 
> trailer you haul stuff on but do not plate tow-able tools like cement 
> or mortar mixers or log splitters, trenchers, limb chippers etc. a 
> couple of the things they do where Scott works is underground boring 
> and pipe bursting. The state questioned the boxes / racks where they 
> haul the stems they use but finally decided that since they were only 
> used on those machines and they were not hauling pipe it was OK to not 
> plate those machines. I don't know why they even questioned them, it's 
> not like there are not hundreds of those things on the road. 
> Bureaucratic silliness I guess.
>
>
> .
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> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:58 PM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net 
> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>
>     I found Rock Auto has a lot of old stuff available. Fooled me.   
>     I was looking at their catalog last night and found kingpin and
>     bushings for the old 66 C60  And at reasonable prices...  I
>     ordered a lot of suspension parts for my 98 Chevy C85 from them
>     last year.  The biggest gripe I have with Rock Auto is that
>     sometimes on a larger order it will come from 3 or more warehouses
>     and there is a shipping and handling charge for each one.  They
>     have some warehouse liquidation buys that are really cheap and
>     high quality...  Here is a link to that IHC water pump
>     https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/international,1973,1210,5.6l+345cid+v8,1409756,cooling+system,water+pump,2208
>       I have on old 75 3/4 ton 4x4 IHC that had a 304 but I had a 345
>     in a 1 ton and swapped them.  I also swapped the power steering
>     box to the 3/4 also..
>
>     Here in OK if we don't tag a vehicle in 2 years it costs over $300
>     to tag it.  It used to be $0.25/day up to the price of the tag
>     then double tag for the penalty and they only went back 2 years.  
>     For an old truck or car, it would run no more than $100.  Then the
>     state got broke and greedy and it went to over $300 depending on
>     what tag agency figures it...  `We can put a black sticker on the
>     tag that means it will not be used and no penalty will accrue.   I
>     have a bunch of old trucks that have black tags because the
>     mandatory insurance law would just break the budget.  It is $27.50
>     for a black tag sticker.  To insure a 2 ton or larger farm truck
>     is about $50/yr on a farm fleet use.  In OK every vehicle on the
>     road must be insured.  In Arkansas, a farmer can buy a liability
>     policy for about $300/yr that covers him driving any vehicle he
>     gets into.  OK is run by the oil patch and the insurance lobby, so
>     we don't have a chance to save on insurance....
>
>     Rambling again....
>     Cecil
>
>     On 3/12/2020 2:23 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>     Gee, imagine any of us "rambling"...  :-) I always have a soft
>>     spot for old trucks. I have an old 1965 IHC 1600 Load Star that I
>>     don't really have any reason to own. My tandem axle trailer or
>>     even just one of the pickups is all I need most of the time. If I
>>     need something heavy hauled son Scott can bring something home
>>     from a small trailer up through stages of goose-necks and his
>>     take-home ton work truck through heavy tag behind a single axle
>>     dump, a tri-axle dump on up to a very long trailer semi. I do
>>     work very hard to not abuse the privilege and to mostly deal with
>>     my own stuff as much as I can.
>>     I have not plated the IHC lately but try to keep it viable. All
>>     that it really needed was tires and I found a set of 6 (2
>>     steering and 4 lug type) that someone had bought new for an old
>>     truck and then blew up the engine after only putting a few
>>     hundred miles on the tires. You can still see the mold marks on
>>     the face of the tread. I hope to get those installed this summer
>>     and some little stuff. Oh, yeah, it also needs a passenger side
>>     running board (or a step ladder). It has a very good twin
>>     cylinder hoist and a good step plate floor in the bed. I hauled a
>>     lot of grain with it before I retired and occasionally a load of
>>     stone. I would love to have a two speed axle for it, it is geared
>>     quite low. It's just a 4 speed (first is granny gear) and it
>>     sounds wound out pretty high at 55 MPH in 4th. I can't justify a
>>     2 speed so I'll just keep good oil in it and change it often. It
>>     won't get many miles on it.
>>     Speaking of rambling...
>>     Son Scott just bought an old IHC pickup last Saturday. It is a
>>     1973 4x4 with a 345. Quite a bit of body rust but not a lot of
>>     dents and the frame looks very good. I believe it was last plated
>>     about 3 years ago. Under the hood looked good and original, not
>>     butchered up. He got it started and said that it was only making
>>     the noises it was supposed to but the water pump was froze.
>>     Probably not a big problem. Stuff is fairly well available for
>>     the 345's.
>>
>>
>>     .
>>
>>     On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:50 PM Cecil Bearden
>>     <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         I went to an auction yesterday.  I should have bought the
>>         6600 JD
>>         combine that sold for $2000, but I didn't want to sleep with
>>         the cats in
>>         the barn..   Also picked up a 32ft Field cultivator/spring
>>         tooth.  If I
>>         take off the wigs I have a 12ft one and a lot of spare parts!!
>>
>>         I went after the 66 Chevrolet C60 w/ 20 ft bed & hoist air
>>         tag axle,
>>         Shurco tarp and Westfield drill fill auger.  For $2000 I
>>         figured the bed
>>         & hoist was worth that.  My drill fill auger needs a new
>>         auger and it is
>>         over $500.
>>
>>         The truck looks like it has a 366 engine.  OEM would have
>>         been a 348 or
>>         409 I think..  This has the valve covers of the 366 & 427 but
>>         only a 2
>>         bbl carb so I would guess 366.  It has a very worn 5 speed
>>         transmission
>>         and a 2 speed axle that shifts ok.  The cab is not in bad
>>         shape for a
>>         66.  If I can swap the power steering gear from a 67 or 68
>>         model I have
>>         here, then I can change to the smaller steering wheel and
>>         maybe fit
>>         behind the wheel. Either that or lose 100 lbs.  I was looking at
>>         shortening the steering column as it can move forward under
>>         the dash If
>>         I shorten the steering tube and re-cut the splines on the
>>         steering
>>         shaft. I have a 18ft tilt bed hoist I would like to put on
>>         this one.  I
>>         have a 427 & 5speed in another truck that would give it a
>>         little more
>>         power.  The 366 did not seem to really have a lot of zip to
>>         it, but this
>>         truck has only been used about 50 miles a year for the last
>>         10 years.
>>         If all else fails I can hop up a 350 with 10:1 compression
>>         and propane......
>>
>>         It is a lot of work, but I have this soft spot for the 60-66
>>         Chevrolet
>>         trucks.  I rebuilt a lot of engines in those years for hopped
>>         up farm
>>         trucks.  I had a 52GMC 2 ton with a 16ft bed & hoist that
>>         would haul 300
>>         bushel at 70mph.  Back then we did not have the traffic on
>>         the highways
>>         we do now...
>>
>>         Just rambling......
>>
>>         Cecil
>>
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>>     Francis Robinson
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>>     Central Indiana USA
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