[AT] Right to repair

[Stephen Offiler]

Yeah, right.  Making a Roxor legal has zero to do with political support.
The laws that every other manufacturer has to follow are crystal-clear.
Emissions compliance and safety compliance.  Period.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 6:12 PM James Peck <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Mahindra has been making noises about setting up a manufacturing plant in
> Flint. I am a little suspicious that they are just trying to get political
> support for making the Roxor street lega.
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> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> on behalf of Mike M <
> meulenms at gmx.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 8, 2020 12:12 PM
> *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Right to repair
>
> When I was looking at a small compact tractor, I had a choice between a
> Kubota 39 horse or a Mahindra 40 horse. I drove both and liked them both,
> Kubota makes a nice machine. When we sat down to talk numbers, the
> salesman, (same dealership franchise) said if I liked them both he would
> opt for the year older Mahindra with a Tier III engine vs the Kubota that
> had a Tier IV engine. Mind you this was at least 5 years ago, but he said
> that the Tier IV engines where coming in with problems his techs did not
> have the knowledge or equipment to fix. If they are not run hard, they go
> into regen  mode and you have to put them at full throttle and let it run
> that way for 30 minutes to clean the filter. Not sure if this is still the
> case, I suspect not, but at the time it made my choice easy. My Tier III is
> all mechanical, which means that if I can't fix it any diesel mechanic
> would have no problem with it, no electronics or computer for the engine.
>
> Mike M
>
> On 3/8/2020 10:53 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>
> That will get you about 16 years of AlldataDIY, which I highly recommend
> vs the printed manual.
>
> https://www.alldatadiy.com/buy/
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 10:45 AM James Peck <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Service Manual for 2019 F150 shown as costing $186 plus tax and shipping.
>
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/farmers-fight-john-deere-over-who-gets-to-fix-an-dollar800000-tractor/ar-BB10MABk?ocid=NL_ENUS_A2_20200308_6_4
>
> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/farmers-fight-john-deere-over-who-gets-to-fix-an-dollar800000-tractor/ar-BB10MABk?ocid=NL_ENUS_A2_20200308_6_4>
> Farmers Fight John Deere Over Who Gets to Fix an $800,000 Tractor
> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/farmers-fight-john-deere-over-who-gets-to-fix-an-dollar800000-tractor/ar-BB10MABk?ocid=NL_ENUS_A2_20200308_6_4>
> Anything a farmer does on a modern tractor, beginning with opening the cab
> door, generates messages captured by its main onboard computer, which
> uploads the signals to the cloud via a cellular ...
> www.msn.com
>
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> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> on behalf of Ralph Goff
> <alfg at sasktel.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:00 PM
> *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Right to repair
>
>
>
> On 2019-11-21 6:10 a.m., bradloomis at charter.net wrote:
>
> Not being a farmer but a maintenance mechanic who repairs all manner of
> items I’ve read with interest the comments on this list about “Right to
> repair” and the big manufacturers. Today’s NY Times has an editorial on
> just that as it relates to the military. Our tax dollars at work, against
> us. Not sure, you may need a subscription to read but jeez, what a mess.
> Send equipment back to the States from the battlefield because the Marines
> can’t repair their equipment.
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/opinion/military-right-to-repair.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_191121?campaign_id=2&instance_id=13923&segment_id=18966&user_id=57181594d83579e309e3a0907875e753&regi_id=26359631121
>
> Brad
>
> That is just one more reason I'm happy to be running older machinery and
> vehicles built before y2k.
>
> Ralph in Sask.
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