[AT] driver convenience systems
Jim Becker
mr.jebecker at gmail.com
Thu Jan 23 19:13:18 PST 2020
The Equinox is a 2019. The bright/dim function of the turn lever is as you
both describe. However, if the autodim is turned on and you do those
operations, the autodim takes over as soon as you let go of the lever. That
is nice if you want to flash somebody then let the autodim take over again.
In other situations, like when you turn onto a private road and want the
brights, it would be nice to have the manual override shut off the auto
function.
There are some functions that are blocked when moving. Mostly they make
sense. However, it is annoying that, for example, a passenger can't make a
phone call when the car is moving. I agree there is no need to check oil
life while moving. On the other hand, tire pressure is an operating
parameter that you (or at least I) want to see while moving. When I feel
some odd behavior, it is nice to be able to check for a low tire.
Jim Becker
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Todd,
If you Equinox is anything like my 2016 Colorado, you can turn on the
brights by pushing the turn signal lever forward, and turn them of by either
pulling it backwards, or by pushing it forward a second time. You can also
just flash the highs by pulling back on the turn lever and letting it go, it
returns to the off sate automatically. Nice feature since all you have to do
is pull back, release, pull back, release, etc to flash the lights instead
of push forward, pull back, push forward, pull back, etc.
Carl
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Jim,What year is your wife's Equinox? We just got a 2020 and I think with it
you can put the high beams on manually by just pushing forward on the lever.
We haven't driven it much yet so I'm still figuring things out. We got it at
thanksgiving time and have only put 300 miles on it.I was a bit dubious
about the auto dim function, but I must say it seems to work quite well.
Todd MarkleSpring Mills, Pa.
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My wife’s car (Chevy Equinox) has autodimming lights. It has a dedicated
button on the turn signal lever for turning the feature on or off. It works
pretty well in most circumstances. It has what I consider a bit of a
problem on a road with a lot of up and down. You enter a dip and even with
another car coming towards you in the next dip it turns the brights on. It
leaves them on until both vehicles get far enough up the next hump to
establish line of sight to each other’s headlights. Doing it manually, you
can see the scatter from the other lights and dim (or leave dim) before you
have direct line of sight. On that type road, it is better to shut the
autodim off and stick with low beams if there is oncoming traffic. I had
another situation a couple nights ago. I was entering a large sweeping
curve, one of those flatland curves with about an 800 ft. radius. Another
car was entering from the other end and he had a headlight out. I guess it
dimmed at a reasonable distance but I would have dimmed way before the
autodimmer did it. That was one of those oddball situations people dream up
to prove the system doesn’t work. Having a convenient way to shut the
feature off is probably the answer. By the way, the manual lists a half
dozen situations where the system may not dim the lights, including both I
just described. Following that list it says: “The IntelliBeam system may
need to be disabled if any of the above conditions exist.” Jim Becker From:
Stephen Offiler Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 4:33 PMTo: Antique Tractor
Email Discussion Group Subject: Re: [AT] driver convenience systems I have
no answer; doesn't seem like there'd be any federal requirement, so I'd
guess it's the whim of the Ram product and marketing people. I think it
would bug me enough to shut it off, and I guess I find it interesting that
you like it enough on the open road to deal with it below 15mph. SO On
Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 3:43 PM Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com> wrote:
You can toggle a setting that allows the lighting stalk to be “normal”
brights on/off or be auto dim on/off. But it’s a touch screen setting and 3
menus down.... I live on a private road that is dark and unlit. It also
has speedbumps (don’t get me started on that - crazy neighbors insisted when
we finally paved it). Slowing down for the speedbumps triggers this
behavior. I also have a long dark drive to the shed with the baler and the
Ford and continues down to one barn. My speed on that driveway is too slow
for them to even come on. Also, sometimes you just want to be stopped
but still have the bright lights on. Funny thing is, if It didn’t do such
a great job on the road in normal circumstances, I’d turn autodim off and
leave it off. But I really like it under those normal circumstances. So I
find myself doing without bright lights in slow/stopped circumstances or
fumbling with a touchscreen. Seems ridiculous. Why would I not want
bright lights below 15mph? Spencer
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On Jan 22, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:
Spencer: presumably one can shut the auto-dimming function off? I can
totally see the 15mph irritation. My tractor-hauling rig is a '16 F-250 but
it's pretty basic "XL" trim level. Not much auto-anything beyond the
transmission. Which is fine with me! Steve O. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at
1:30 PM Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com> wrote:
My 2016 Ram antique tractor hauling truck has auto dimming and clearly uses
a camera and AI to recognize headlights AND taillights. Does really well.
Only issues are some security/street lights will fool it and they turn off.
Even then the truck has to be approaching at just the right vector. Minor
thing in my mind. Other one is speed. Below 15mph the brights go off.
This is a bigger deal and pisses me off driving on the beach or a gravel rd
when I am traveling between 12-18 mph and they turn on and off and on and
off and ...... Spencer
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On Jan 22, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Dean Vinson <dean at vinsonfarm.net> wrote:
I rented a car last month while visiting relatives in another state.
Toyota Camry, I think, whatever the rental place considered a “full size”
car. With the headlight switch in Auto mode, it would automatically switch
the high beams on and off depending on whether oncoming car headlights were
visible. Freaked me out when it first happened. I watched attentively
for a while and it worked fine, never left the high beams on when I would
have switched them off. But I stopped using Auto mode after that and just
used the normal On setting and controlled the high beams manually… too much
habit, muscle memory, and lingering distrust of the new system. As I think
about it, maybe the auto bright/dim control isn’t a bad feature, since there
are sure a bunch of morons out there who don’t think it’s important to
switch to low beams when they’re *behind* another car. Hopefully the
technology provides that capability too… Dean Vinson Saint Paris, OH
From: AT [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Aaron
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Subject: Re: [AT] driver convenience systems Rain, fog, Snow all can allow
enough ambient light to fool the auto headlamps to think they are not
necessary. My complaint when they first came out with daytime running lights
with auto headlamps, was fear that it would make drivers lazy/ignorant about
when and how to use their headlights. I have seen too many times when lights
are not on or fully on when they should be. Little concerned about the
driver alert systems. Surprised at the number of drivers that don’t know how
to position their mirrors, or have awareness of their surroundings. Like
many on the list, I drive a pickup truck often towing a trailer, be it a
flatbed, travel, or enclosed. I am able to adjust my mirrors to nearly
eliminate blind spots, those that remain are monitored for vehicles entering
and leaving. Aaron Dickinson Mason, Michigan From: Jim Becker
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights. Yeah, what
Brian said about DRLs, except maybe not at 80%. Automatic lights respond to
light levels and should turn on both front and rear. Most if not all also
have an instrument panel indicator so the driver can tell if the automatic
lights are on. They do not know when it is raining as light levels in rain
are usually above the level that turns on the lights. It is still up to the
driver to turn on lights in the rain. Jim Becker From: Brian
VanDragt Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:35 PM To: 'Antique Tractor
Email Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install
headlights. I don’t know how all the auto mode lights work, but my ‘99
Chevy Tahoe has daytime running lights and no auto mode. Daytime running
lights are the front headlights only and are always on at 80% brightness
whenever the engine is running and the parking brake is not set. I don’t
consider these auto mode lights. If I want my rear lights on and the
headlights up to full brightness when it is getting dark or when it is
raining, I have to turn my lights on manually. Daytime running lights are
to make oncoming traffic more visible in shaded areas. Brian From: AT
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Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights. Howard, I
am glad to hear that on your escape. The last four vehicles I have had would
not turn on the rear lights when the auto mode turned on the front lights.
One of those vehicles was a pickup truck. Now I am wondering what condition
turns the lights on in auto mode. Several years ago my wife was driving in a
rainstorm while I was behind her. When we stopped I raised the roof because
she had no lights on. She advised me real quick "I had them on auto mode".
The next time you are out in the daylight take a look at the oncoming
traffic and see how many have lights on the front but none on the rear,
unless of course they are applying their brakes.
I am guessing now that the insurance explanation says it all. I thought for
sure that EPA had something to do with it.
I guess I am just getting too old, I am one of those people that just don't
matter anymore.
On January 19, 2020 at 8:02 PM Howard Pletcher <hrpletch at gmail.com> wrote:
???? I don't think a dangerous situation like that can be industrywide. My
Ford Escape turns on both front and rear in the auto mode. Howard
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Gilbert Schwartz < vschwartz1 at comcast.net>
wrote:
While we are talking about vehicle lights, please, someone explain to me why
or how anyone would want to have lights on the front of their vehicle with
no lights on the rear. It appears that this condition is industrywide and
seems to be always in the "AUTO" mode on the headlight switch.
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