[AT] driver convenience systems

Wed Jan 22 10:52:08 PST 2020

Spencer:  presumably one can shut the auto-dimming function off?  I can
totally see the 15mph irritation.  My tractor-hauling rig is a '16 F-250
but it's pretty basic "XL" trim level.  Not much auto-anything beyond the
transmission.  Which is fine with me!

Steve O.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:30 PM Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com> wrote:

> My 2016 Ram antique tractor hauling truck has auto dimming and clearly
> uses a camera and AI to recognize headlights AND taillights.  Does really
> well.   Only  issues are some security/street lights will fool it and they
> turn off.  Even then the truck has to be approaching at just the right
> vector.  Minor thing in my mind.
>
> Other one is speed.   Below 15mph the brights go off.  This is a bigger
> deal and pisses me off driving on the beach or a gravel rd when I am
> traveling between 12-18 mph and they turn on and off and on and off and
> ......
>
>
> Spencer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 22, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Dean Vinson <dean at vinsonfarm.net> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I rented a car last month while visiting relatives in another state.
> Toyota Camry, I think, whatever the rental place considered a “full size”
> car.   With the headlight switch in Auto mode, it would automatically
> switch the high beams on and off depending on whether oncoming car
> headlights were visible.   Freaked me out when it first happened.   I
> watched attentively for a while and it worked fine, never left the high
> beams on when I would have switched them off.   But I stopped using Auto
> mode after that and just used the normal On setting and controlled the high
> beams manually… too much habit, muscle memory, and lingering distrust of
> the new system.
>
>
>
> As I think about it, maybe the auto bright/dim control isn’t a bad
> feature, since there are sure a bunch of morons out there who don’t think
> it’s important to switch to low beams when they’re **behind** another
> car.  Hopefully the technology provides that capability too…
>
>
>
> Dean Vinson
>
> Saint Paris, OH
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AT [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] *On Behalf Of *Aaron
> Dickinson
> *Sent:* Monday, January 20, 2020 5:05 PM
> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] driver convenience systems
>
>
>
> Rain, fog, Snow all can allow enough ambient light to fool the auto
> headlamps to think they are not necessary. My complaint when they first
> came out with daytime running lights with auto headlamps, was fear that it
> would make drivers lazy/ignorant about when and how to use their
> headlights. I have seen too many times when lights are not on or fully on
> when they should be. Little concerned about the driver alert systems.
> Surprised at the number of drivers that don’t know how to position their
> mirrors, or have awareness of their surroundings. Like many on the list, I
> drive a pickup truck often towing a trailer, be it a flatbed, travel, or
> enclosed. I am able to *adjust* my mirrors to nearly eliminate blind
> spots, those that remain are monitored for vehicles entering and leaving.
>
>
>
> Aaron Dickinson
>
> Mason, Michigan
>
>
>
> *From: *Jim Becker <mr.jebecker at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:49 PM
> *To: *'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group'
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
>
>
>
> Yeah, what Brian said about DRLs, except maybe not at 80%.  Automatic
> lights respond to light levels and should turn on both front and rear.
> Most if not all also have an instrument panel indicator so the driver can
> tell if the automatic lights are on.  They do not know when it is raining
> as light levels in rain are usually above the level that turns on the
> lights.  It is still up to the driver to turn on lights in the rain.
>
>
>
> Jim Becker
>
>
>
> *From:* Brian VanDragt
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:35 PM
>
> *To:* 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group'
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
>
>
>
> I don’t know how all the auto mode lights work, but my ‘99 Chevy Tahoe has
> daytime running lights and no auto mode.  Daytime running lights are the
> front headlights only and are always on at 80% brightness whenever the
> engine is running and the parking brake is not set.  I don’t consider these
> auto mode lights.  If I want my rear lights on and the headlights up to
> full brightness when it is getting dark or when it is raining, I have to
> turn my lights on manually.  Daytime running lights are to make oncoming
> traffic more visible in shaded areas.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> *From:* AT [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gilbert Schwartz
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:23 PM
> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group; Howard Pletcher
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
>
>
>
> Howard, I am glad to hear that on your escape. The last four vehicles I
> have had would not turn on the rear lights when the auto mode turned on the
> front lights. One of those vehicles was a pickup truck. Now I am wondering
> what condition turns the lights on in auto mode. Several years ago my wife
> was driving in a rainstorm while I was behind her. When we stopped I raised
> the roof because she had no lights on. She advised me real quick "I had
> them on auto mode".
> The next time you are out in the daylight take a look at the oncoming
> traffic and see how many have lights on the front but none on the rear,
> unless of course they are applying their brakes.
> I am guessing now that the insurance explanation says it all. I thought
> for sure that EPA had something to do with it.
> I guess I am just getting too old, I am one of those people that just
> don't matter anymore.
>
> On January 19, 2020 at 8:02 PM Howard Pletcher <hrpletch at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> ????  I don't think a dangerous situation like that can be industrywide.
> My Ford Escape turns on both front and rear in the auto mode.
>
>
>
> Howard
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Gilbert Schwartz < vschwartz1 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> While we are talking about vehicle lights, please, someone explain to me
> why or how anyone would want to have lights on the front of their vehicle
> with no lights on the rear. It appears that this condition is industrywide
> and seems to be always in the "AUTO" mode on the headlight switch.
>
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