[AT] driver convenience systems

gdotsly at watchtv.net gdotsly at watchtv.net
Wed Jan 22 09:37:00 PST 2020 

I remember in school when my best friend's dad bought a new 1954 Chevrolet
that had auto dimming light. When a car came at us with bright lights on,
we would hold a hand over the sensor, mounted in the left corner of the
dash, causing the lights to flash to bright at the offending the oncoming
driver.


                        Gene




On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 15:48:17 +0000, Aaron Dickinson <a_dickinson at att.net>
wrote:
> In the 70’s Chrysler had auto dimming headlights, don’t have any
> personal experience with them though.
> 
> Aaron DickinsonMason, Mi
> FROM: Dean Vinson [1]
> SENT: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎January‎ ‎22‎, ‎2020 ‎7‎:‎07‎
> ‎AM
> TO: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group [2]
> 
> I rented a car last month while visiting relatives in another state.
> Toyota Camry, I think, whatever the rental place considered a “full
> size” car. With the headlight switch in Auto mode, it would
> automatically switch the high beams on and off depending on whether
> oncoming car headlights were visible. Freaked me out when it first
> happened. I watched attentively for a while and it worked fine, never
> left the high beams on when I would have switched them off. But I
stopped
> using Auto mode after that and just used the normal On setting and
> controlled the high beams manually… too much habit, muscle memory, and
> lingering distrust of the new system.
> 
> As I think about it, maybe the auto bright/dim control isn’t a bad
> feature, since there are sure a bunch of morons out there who don’t
> think it’s important to switch to low beams when they’re *BEHIND*
> another car. Hopefully the technology provides that capability too…
> 
> Dean Vinson
> 
> Saint Paris, OH
> 
> FROM: AT [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] ON BEHALF OF
Aaron
> Dickinson
> SENT: Monday, January 20, 2020 5:05 PM
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> SUBJECT: Re: [AT] driver convenience systems
> 
> Rain, fog, Snow all can allow enough ambient light to fool the auto
> headlamps to think they are not necessary. My complaint when they first
> came out with daytime running lights with auto headlamps, was fear that
> it would make drivers lazy/ignorant about when and how to use their
> headlights. I have seen too many times when lights are not on or fully
on
> when they should be. Little concerned about the driver alert systems.
> Surprised at the number of drivers that don’t know how to position
> their mirrors, or have awareness of their surroundings. Like many on the
> list, I drive a pickup truck often towing a trailer, be it a flatbed,
> travel, or enclosed. I am able to adjust my mirrors to nearly eliminate
> blind spots, those that remain are monitored for vehicles entering and
> leaving. 
> 
> Aaron Dickinson
> 
> Mason, Michigan
> 
> FROM: Jim Becker [3]
> SENT: Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:49 PM
> TO: 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group' [4]
> SUBJECT: Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
> 
> Yeah, what Brian said about DRLs, except maybe not at 80%. Automatic
> lights respond to light levels and should turn on both front and rear.
> Most if not all also have an instrument panel indicator so the driver
can
> tell if the automatic lights are on. They do not know when it is raining
> as light levels in rain are usually above the level that turns on the
> lights. It is still up to the driver to turn on lights in the rain.
> 
> Jim Becker
> 
> FROM: Brian VanDragt 
> 
> SENT: Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:35 PM
> 
> TO: 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group' 
> 
> SUBJECT: Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
> 
> I don’t know how all the auto mode lights work, but my ‘99 Chevy
> Tahoe has daytime running lights and no auto mode. Daytime running
lights
> are the front headlights only and are always on at 80% brightness
> whenever the engine is running and the parking brake is not set. I
> don’t consider these auto mode lights. If I want my rear lights on and
> the headlights up to full brightness when it is getting dark or when it
> is raining, I have to turn my lights on manually. Daytime running lights
> are to make oncoming traffic more visible in shaded areas.
> 
> Brian
> 
> FROM: AT [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [5]] ON BEHALF OF
> Gilbert Schwartz
> SENT: Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:23 PM
> TO: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group; Howard Pletcher
> SUBJECT: Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
> 
> Howard, I am glad to hear that on your escape. The last four vehicles I
> have had would not turn on the rear lights when the auto mode turned on
> the front lights. One of those vehicles was a pickup truck. Now I am
> wondering what condition turns the lights on in auto mode. Several years
> ago my wife was driving in a rainstorm while I was behind her. When we
> stopped I raised the roof because she had no lights on. She advised me
> real quick "I had them on auto mode". 
> The next time you are out in the daylight take a look at the oncoming
> traffic and see how many have lights on the front but none on the rear,
> unless of course they are applying their brakes. 
> I am guessing now that the insurance explanation says it all. I thought
> for sure that EPA had something to do with it. 
> I guess I am just getting too old, I am one of those people that just
> don't matter anymore. 
> 
> On January 19, 2020 at 8:02 PM Howard Pletcher  wrote: 
> 
> ???? I don't think a dangerous situation like that can be industrywide.
> My Ford Escape turns on both front and rear in the auto mode. 
> 
> Howard 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Gilbert Schwartz <
vschwartz1 at comcast.net
> [7]> wrote: 
> 
> While we are talking about vehicle lights, please, someone explain to me
> why or how anyone would want to have lights on the front of their
vehicle
> with no lights on the rear. It appears that this condition is
> industrywide and seems to be always in the "AUTO" mode on the headlight
> switch. 
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