[AT] Stadard Ricardo Injection tubing was Allis Chalmers ED40 injector pipes

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Sun Feb 9 14:36:40 PST 2020


The Perkins A3.152 engines I worked on had a CAV pump and used an 
injector set at 1750 to 1800 PSI cracking pressure.  If the pump was a 
little weak we would drop the cracking pressure down to 1600-1650.  It 
would help starting if the tractor had a good battery.   It advanced the 
timing of the injection some.  By lowering the injector cracking 
pressure, we could make a weak head/rotor combo last another  200-250 
hours.
Cecil

On 2/9/2020 12:09 PM, James Peck wrote:
> You were correct Cecil. I have included the Parker fittings brochure again. Some of the steel fittings are rated to 2800 psi. Any  tubing or other component nneds to have a working pressure rating that excedds the injection pressure. All components in the high pressure injection side need to be rated above  the peak injection pressure. We have not been furnished the peak injection pressure. Without knowing the actual injection pressure, it is anybody's guess what pressure rating we need to selct for. Pressure rating of tubing ddepends on its wall thickness, diameter, matrial, and method of manufacture.  Parker does not sell the tubing. It comes from other venders. With tubing I believe you select it by OD and pressure rating.
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> Does John's friend know the injection pressure on a Standard Ricardo 23C engine?
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> Buying good shape injector tubes may not solve the problem if they have to be bent to clear the glow plugs. Is that the case with the ebay sourced tubes?
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> Not all fittings seal by drawing in a ferrule to the tubing.
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> https://www.iso.org/standard/70228.html ISO 8535-1:2016
> Diesel engines — Steel tubes for high-pressure fuel injection pipes — Part 1: Requirements for seamless cold-drawn single-wall tubes
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> The standard may be more stringent than the OEM tube and fittings.
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> Even more reason to go with the injector repair shop.
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> Thomas Martin AT List Member (tmartin at xtra.co.nz);  Hi Cecil,  I was actually responding to James' post that referred to a reinforced nylon Parker product. There is no real substitute for injector pipes other than injector pipe "tube". Heavy wall as it is, one can still feel the pulse, by holding a pipe between fingers...
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> Cecil Bearden AT List member, Oklahoma farmer, and Professional Engineer (crbearden at copper.net); At the time I wrote this I was thinking hydraulic steel tubing.   Hydraulic tubing fittings have a ferrule that clamps down on the tubing when tightened the first time.     Most diesel tubing has the ferrule brazed on to the tubing.
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