[AT] N.E. PA Merry Christmas

szabelski at wildblue.net szabelski at wildblue.net
Sat Dec 26 20:29:00 PST 2020


Here we’re limited to a minimum of 10 acres when building a house, unless the land was divided into smaller parcels before the township ordnance was passed. The acreage on one side of us was divided into four 2-1/2 acre parcels before that. The PO left them to his nieces who never built on them, they just held onto them. The township brought in city water a few years back because of all the well issues, and we just had gas run down the road last year, so they sold them. We did look into buying them when we first built our house in order to prevent someone from building on them, but the nieces wanted way too much for them back then. The cost today is even more ridiculous. We paid about $3M per acre 20 years ago. Today the cost is about $25M an acre. That’s why I don’t see the 20 acres across the road from us being sold to soon.  $500M to build two houses. But then you never know what some people are willing to pay.

Carl 


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From: Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
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Sent: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 22:28:54 -0500 (EST)
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Thew 80 acres next to me is being developed.  I could not get the former 
owner to sell it to me he preferred to sell it to the farmer who had 
rented it for the last 15 years.  $500K for 80ac. They put in electric 
at no cost to them, and paved a sorta winding asphalt road.  Something 
like 29 home sites selling for $95K. They have been starting a least one 
a week since October.  Their trash blows into our pastures and I lost 
one calf to something he ate.  We should have autopsied him.  The 
builders won't furnish dumpsters so the trash blows everywhere..

I built a big building and insulated it, I hate to leave, but I can't 
even find a place to pee when I am working the ground or pasture...
Cecil

On 12/26/2020 9:06 AM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
> Thanks to all for the input on the pole barn. I have to reread the township rules on size and placement. I know I can go 2600 sq ft based on size of property with no limit on height. The only issue is location. I believe I can be 1ft from property line, but need to get a distance from the pond. Don’t remember there being any mention on that. I shouldn’t have an issue since my wife and I work with the township supervisor at the local food pantry a couple of times a month. I don’t want to go too big since I really don’t have as many toys as most others, and don’t really plan on getting any more. Just bid enough to block the view of the new house and give us back our privacy in the back yard.
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> When we first moved out here the only way to see a neighbor’s house was to look out the third floor window over the tree tops. Now we will have three houses adjacent to our property. The first two aren’t a real issue since one is towards the front of the property, about 100 ft further towards the road, and we don’t see it unless we’re leaving the house. The second built in the woods, leaving most of the trees that block the view of them, and we don’t see it when the leaves are on the trees. The third, however, built far back on the lot and is basically in our back yard. Wife said that if anybody builds on the other side of us we’re going to move. But I don’t think that will actually happen since the property on the other side of us is heavily wooded and I don’t believe we’d be able to really see any house that gets built. Don’t believe we have to worry about the 20 acres across the road since they’re asking way too much for the property and there is other property a lot cheaper on the next two roads that are for sale.
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> Houses are starting to go up all over the area. We had a friend, who was one of two house on their road, move when a house was built about a half mile from them. They said it was because it was getting too crowded, and moved 400 miles further north.
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> Carl
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> From: Gene Derringer <gderringer at embarqmail.com>
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> Sent: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 08:58:55 -0500 (EST)
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> That is good advice- you never have too much space in a barn!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 26, 2020, at 8:52 AM, drgerber at bright.net wrote:
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>> Build it a large as possible; never too much space in a pole barn.
>>
>> Dave in OH
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>> From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of szabelski at wildblue.net
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>> Now that the deck is done, a pole barn is the next major project here for next year. Wife has already picked the right spot, blocking out the new house they built on one of the adjacent properties. She’s also going to make sure it gets done as early as possible. We’re allowed 2600 sq ft. Just have to figure what the dimensions will have to be to do the job and meet township requirements. Will have to fit it between the property line and the pond. Possibly 30 x 80 or so, but don’t know if I actually need one that large.
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>> Carl
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>> Carl
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>> From: Roger Moffat <rogerkiwi at gmail.com>
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>> Sent: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:35:00 -0500 (EST)
>> Subject: Re: [AT] N.E. PA Merry Christmas
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>> Yesterday the Amish finally finished the addition to my barn - I had a 24 x 40 pole barn, and had another one built beside it the same size, and then put under a common roof.
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>> Now I get to finish off the inside of it, insulate and heat it and then move my 2 vintage Franklin cars into it to work on them during the Michigan Winter.
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>> Two pictures here - before and after.
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>> Merry Christmas to Me :-)
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>> The left side of this (below) is the original barn (above).
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>>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:22 PM, joehardy at epix.net wrote:
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>>> Wishing all a very Merry Christmas and a virus free new year. My gift was a new 28 x 32 garage built by the Amish. Just completed day before heavy snow following day. Got plow truck inside just in time along with JD 420 track loader, Farmall A, and Cushman 6' lawn mower. MM335 restoration project didn't make it in. Still under tarps for last 3 years. Can't wait to get inside. Won't have to pick dropped nuts/ bolts/ etc out of the lawn. Kids asked why having a garage built now at 80 years of age? I replied: figure to live until 95 so have time to have good place to complete all my "get to around " projects. Latest storm blew thru last nite in 55 degree temperature & my weather station recorded 44 mph wind gusts.15+ inches snow almost gone. Got to get rid of horse drawn threshing machine w/ 16' straw stacker (free); 1926 model T power unit mounted on Sears supplied steel wheels/ 6" flat belt pulley; Tow behind Massy Harris 55  6' combine. Stay safe &  OK wear mask inside a bank! Joe Hardisky Ryman Farm Dallas, PA
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