[AT] New fangled tractor question

Fri Apr 17 07:09:04 PDT 2020

My TS110 had problems due to an unscrupulous dealer.  The same thing can 
be said about my MTZ/Belarus 1220.4 .  My MTZ had the clutch replaced at 
a very high cost to the factory by the dealer who could not make his 1yr 
payment to the factory.  At 12 hrs of use the clutch was disassembled, 
the flywheel resurfaced, leaving out the pilot bearing, new disks were 
installed that were woven not ceramic and the center plate was 
replaced.  The clutch assembly is a balanced unit and is to be balanced 
before installation.  No balancing was done.  The problems with both 
tractors were due to the actions of bad dealers, and poor mechanics.  
When we replaced the pilot bearing on my MTZ, I was not aware that the 
clutch disks were supposed to be ceramic.  I also did not realize that 
the balanced clutch assembly had been taken apart until I was furnished 
a copy of the warranty claim from the dealer.  The engine has a 
vibration above 1500 rpm.  I am sure it is due to the unbalanced clutch.
Cecil

On 4/17/2020 8:34 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:

> I don't think Cecil's terrible experience with his TS110 says much if 
> anything about New Hollands in general.
>
> Sorry for my barrage of replies earlier; I was actually in the middle 
> of something else and not giving this my full attention.  So to recap, 
> there's something wrong with the information we're given.  I am pretty 
> sure there's no such thing as a 2007 Boomer 40.  The things it could 
> be include:
>
> 1)  2011-2013 Boomer 40 (they just got the date plain wrong)
> 2)  2017 Boomer 40 (the date is one digit off, a real possibility, not 
> to mention 350 hrs makes it sound pretty new)
> 3)  2003-2008 Boomer TC40A (date is correct, and they're abbreviating 
> the model)
>
> These are three somewhat different tractors which will have different 
> monetary values, as well as some features you might not want... the 
> '17 has Tier 4 emissions which I'd have to look up, but I think those 
> are the ones with particulate filters that go into an annoying "regen" 
> cycle periodically.  I'm not sure about DEF but maybe that too.  Show 
> stopper for some people.
>
> SO
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 8:59 AM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net 
> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>
>     My TS110 is a 2003 model.  Most guys around here have had pretty
>     good service from New Holland.  The early 2000 models were just
>     updated Fords.  My tractor had the hourmeter turned back or
>     replaced and was about 5000 hours short..  I believe it was a
>     mowing tractor used by a contractor for the state DOT.  At that
>     time the state was contracting mowing the highways.  Contractors
>     figured out they could not make any money after about 5 years. 
>     One governor got re-elected over retiring the old guys who were
>     tractor operators.  5 years later, ODOT was buying tractors and
>     mowers and hiring operators.  Just another state Boondoogle.
>     Cecil
>
>     On 4/17/2020 7:30 AM, Phil Auten wrote:
>>
>>     Given Cecil Bearden's issues with the New Holland he has, I would
>>     certainly be leery. I don't know how this tractor compares to the
>>     one Cecil has, but hour meters can be easily replaced and things
>>     can be spruced up to make them seem a lot better than they are. I
>>     am reminded here of the stories my dad told me about one
>>     particular used car dealer back in the late 50's and early 60's,
>>     and they weren't good.
>>
>>     Phil in TX
>>
>>
>>     On 4/17/2020 6:49 AM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>>     Got a question last night from a nephew about 4 states away
>>>     about a fair price to pay for a 2007 New Holland Boomer 40 with
>>>     front end loader and 350 hours on it. Very good condition...
>>>     I explained that it was about 50 years too new for my knowledge
>>>     base  :-)  but told him that I would ask around. I'm going to
>>>     have to google it just to see what one looks like.  :-)
>>>     Anyone have any idea?
>>>
>>>     .
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     -- 
>>>
>>>     Francis Robinson
>>>     aka "farmer"
>>>     Central Indiana USA
>>>     robinson46176 at gmail.com <mailto:robinson46176 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
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