[AT] OT — Tablet computers
Mike M
meulenms at gmx.com
Wed Apr 15 08:49:56 PDT 2020
I think mine is actually a little newer, so I'll check to see what the
trade is in on that.
Mike M
On 4/15/2020 11:27 AM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Has another thought regrading the trade in. I Believe you said that you have an old I-pad that you don’t really use.
> You may want to consider trading that one in and then keeping your wife’s I-pad for yourself if it’s newer than yours.
>
> Carl
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Sent: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 10:51:30 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT — Tablet computers
>
> Thanks again guys, this has been very informative.
>
> Mike M
>
>
> On 4/15/2020 9:53 AM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> Should have also mentioned that they also show the I-pad Air and I-pad Pro, which are the higher priced items. I was only talking about the basic I-pad since that’s what I believe you ‘re interested in.
>>
>> Carl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 22:39:39 -0400 (EDT)
>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT — Tablet computers
>>
>> OK, so here is what is available to me through my daughter. Why the wild
>> differences in prices? It appears that they all have the same Chipset
>> and Co-processor, am I missing something?
>>
>> https://computershowcase.umich.edu/category.php?cat=4
>>
>> Thank-you,
>> Mike M
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/14/2020 5:46 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>> Go for it Bob! I am now doing my level best to work from home as much
>>> as possible, which is tough when you're a CNC guy, they don't travel
>>> well ;-) I am just reorganizing work flow so all the paperwork comes
>>> home with me and I'm only in the shop to be on the floor. At home my
>>> iMac becomes the portal to my Windowns workstation at work, which runs
>>> Solidworks and the management software. It left me wanting a separate
>>> screen for email, spreadsheets, word processing. I installed Linux
>>> Mint 19.3 Mate Edition on a Dell laptop that was top of the line in
>>> 2008, and it works like a charm. Learning curve is minimal. I'd say I
>>> was productive with it the same day.
>>>
>>> Steve O.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:38 PM rbrooks at hvc.rr.com
>>> <mailto:rbrooks at hvc.rr.com> <rbrooks at hvc.rr.com
>>> <mailto:rbrooks at hvc.rr.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> I have two ipads. One older one 2012 or 13 vintage We bought it
>>> for my daighter gor college and a new work one. The older one is
>>> slso slow snd will not run a lot of the newer programs, excuse me
>>> “Apps”. Both ate WiFi only the new one runs with no issues. The
>>> older one is slow and cluncky. That started with some of the
>>> layer firmware. Sort of like running windows 7
>>>
>>> All the computers here are microsoft. Except for 2 older laptops
>>> that the group has me convinced I should try linux on
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Apr 14, 2020, at 4:48 PM, szabelski at wildblue.net
>>> <mailto:szabelski at wildblue.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Mike,
>>> >
>>> > If your wife’s I-pad is seven years old, she doesn’t have the
>>> latest OS, which is why she’s probably running slow and getting
>>> all the ads. My wife and I both have newer I-pads, and we don’t
>>> have that issue. Our only issue is that we have to get our
>>> internet through a dish since we can’t get any cable out here.
>>> >
>>> > My wife’s older I-pad had the same issues before we up greased.
>>> >
>>> > Carl
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>
>>> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
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>>> > Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 16:29:44 -0400 (EDT)
>>> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT — Tablet computers
>>> >
>>> > Thanks Spencer, I will look for a straight up I-Pad, if they do
>>> offer
>>> > student discounts, my daughter has an .edu account we can use.
>>> I'm not
>>> > anti Apple per se, but I grew up on Microsoft in college with
>>> Windows
>>> > using version 3.1. As I understand it Apple, even though
>>> superior, would
>>> > not grant licensing for their operating system, so most software was
>>> > written for Windows. Deep down, I know that Apple is a better
>>> product,
>>> > but at times it doesn't play well with others. The reason my wife's
>>> > I-pad is so slow is that I cannot find any third party ad blocking
>>> > software for it. My windows machine is much faster due to the
>>> fact I can
>>> > run several anti ad ware blocking programs on it, and rarely see
>>> an ad.
>>> > I had to try and diagnose a computer problems the other day and
>>> had to
>>> > go back to IE9, to eliminate the browser as the problem. Holy
>>> crap, if I
>>> > had to put up with that many ad's and popups everyday, I
>>> wouldn't use
>>> > the Internet.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Mike M
>>> >
>>> >> On 4/14/2020 4:12 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>> >> First off: great gift idea. I’m sure she’ll appreciate it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Apple keeps a really tight control on prices and their
>>> partners can’t
>>> >> undercut them by much. The few bucks you might save at Newegg
>>> may not
>>> >> be worth it since Apple presale support is pretty good. In
>>> addition if
>>> >> you buy from Apple I understand they take trade-ins. At least
>>> get some
>>> >> credit on your wife’s current iPad.
>>> >>
>>> >> Also get the model that is just “iPad“. There is an iPad Pro, iPad
>>> >> Air, etc. Just the straight up iPad is what you need. 32 GB model
>>> >> should be plenty as well since she doesn’t use the camera. Might
>>> >> want to double check her current usage tho to be sure. She might
>>> >> also start using the camera when she sees how good the camera
>>> has gotten.
>>> >>
>>> >> Connectors have changed quite a bit over the years. If she has any
>>> >> devices she wants to plug-in you might need to check on getting an
>>> >> adapter. I guess that can come after the unwrapping.
>>> >>
>>> >> As an aside: I’ve been doing software for a living for a long time
>>> >> and I have never understood many folks reluctance to use Apple
>>> >> products. Sure, they are expensive. But they’re really good
>>> products
>>> >> and Apple is more likely than any other vendor to support their
>>> >> customers, back their product and protect your privacy. Those are
>>> >> important things to me. Full disclosure: I have a personal Mac
>>> and a
>>> >> work Mac.
>>> >>
>>> >> Good luck!
>>> >>
>>> >> Spencer
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >>>> On Apr 14, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So I'm an Apple newb, and prefer to stay that way. I have always
>>> >>> found that I get the most bang for my computer buck if I buy last
>>> >>> years latest and greatest, when the purist need the absolute
>>> latest
>>> >>> model. She doesn't use the camera, so that's a feature that
>>> I'm not
>>> >>> concerned about. What model has the fastest processing speed, and
>>> >>> will give me the most bang for my buck?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Mike M
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 4/14/2020 12:44 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>> >>>> I made the mistake of looking at Newegg..., now I want an iPad!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> SO
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:24 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>
>>> >>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks guys, I'll check the Apple refurbished and the
>>> Newegg site.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Mike M
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 4/14/2020 1:25 AM, Tyler Juranek wrote:
>>> >>>>> Hi Mike,
>>> >>>>> Have you ever thought about trying Newegg? I don't know if
>>> >>>> they sell
>>> >>>>> Apple products, but I'll tell you my story.
>>> >>>>> Back in 2015, I bought an HP probook. One of my buddies is an
>>> >>>>> assistive tech dealer. Since I am visually impaired, I thought
>>> >>>> I'd be
>>> >>>>> nice and give him some business, even though I can go buy a
>>> >>>> computer
>>> >>>>> and set it up myself.
>>> >>>>> Anyway, I used the livin' crap out of it. Jump ahead to
>>> >>>> December of
>>> >>>>> 2019. Windows 7 was about to go bye bye in January. I thought
>>> >>>> I would
>>> >>>>> just upgrade the one I had. Wrong.
>>> >>>>> Since I am a power user, I knew a new computer was in order.
>>> >>>> I needed
>>> >>>>> something powerful, as not only do I do the basics, but I
>>> host an
>>> >>>>> internet radio program, broadcast live events, do the books
>>> for my
>>> >>>>> business, etc. So I called HP. For everything I needed, the
>>> >>>> thing was
>>> >>>>> going to be 3 grand! I got on Newegg and bought the same exact
>>> >>>>> computer for $1100. I am very happy with it now. I would
>>> check on
>>> >>>>> Newegg for a tablet like your wife wants. I would bet they
>>> >>>> have it.
>>> >>>>> Tractor note: I really need to get the Oliver 770 out and
>>> >>>> ready to go
>>> >>>>> for the rides this summer, but its to cold and rainy to do so.
>>> >>>>> Good Luck,
>>> >>>>> Tyler Juranek
>>> >>>>> IA
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 4/13/20, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>
>>> >>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Note, my wife has no idea that this is coming, I just hear
>>> >>>> her complain
>>> >>>>>> about it enough to know she needs a new one. I have a love/hate
>>> >>>>>> relationship with Apple, yes they work, but man are they
>>> spendy.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Mike M
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 4/13/2020 10:33 PM, Chuck Bealke wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> Five years ago Shirlee bought a 12” iPad. I thought it too
>>> >>>> big and pricey
>>> >>>>>>> but withheld comment. Good thing. Ever since she has spent
>>> >>>> a good part of
>>> >>>>>>> her day with it and loves it for all kinds of things. Even
>>> >>>> lugged it along
>>> >>>>>>> on a round the world trip (ignoring my advice) and had WiFi
>>> >>>> on ship and
>>> >>>>>>> hotels for most of trip.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Cecil Bearden
>>> >>>> <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>
>>> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> My experience after 40 years of marriage in August is just
>>> >>>> pony up the
>>> >>>>>>>> money to let her buy what she wants and don't try to
>>> >>>> influence her
>>> >>>>>>>> decision. That way if the one she gets is obsolete or has
>>> >>>> to be changed
>>> >>>>>>>> in the next 6 months It shouldn't be your fault. Note I
>>> said
>>> >>>>>>>> Shouldn't.................
>>> >>>>>>>> Cecil
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2020 5:37 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>> Along the same lines your cell carrier might have specials
>>> >>>> on tablets as
>>> >>>>>>>>> part of phone and/or contract renewal promotions. You
>>> >>>> might want to look
>>> >>>>>>>>> into that. I am with AT&T and I know I just heard of a
>>> >>>> deal where if
>>> >>>>>>>>> you buy an iPhone at your renewal the pad was free or
>>> >>>> real cheap.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course, as is usual with my luck, the deal comes out
>>> >>>> just a few
>>> >>>>>>>>> months after we traded/renews my wife’s iPhone...
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Claude Kyker
>>> >>>> <claudekyker at gmail.com <mailto:claudekyker at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:claudekyker at gmail.com <mailto:claudekyker at gmail.com>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Something to be aware of is whether to get “WIFI only “
>>> >>>> or get one
>>> >>>>>>>>>> that is capable of using cellular data. WIFI only is good
>>> >>>> when you have
>>> >>>>>>>>>> access to WIFI, cellular data can be used anywhere cel
>>> >>>> signal is
>>> >>>>>>>>>> available. Not saying what you need, just making sure you
>>> >>>> are aware.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Claude
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>
>>> >>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ugh, not what I wanted to hear, but it sounds like a
>>> >>>> newer Apple is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> way to go. All their work computers are Windows based
>>> >>>> and sometimes
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> they
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> just don't play together well.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mike M
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2020 4:08 PM, Henry Miller wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are not many choices.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Google has decided that androids are phones and so the
>>> >>>> tablet
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> offerings have a bit of a not quite there feel. They
>>> >>>> work, but there
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> are rough edges depending on how the specific
>>> >>>> manufacturer supports
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> it (Samsung might okay as they have budget). Google
>>> >>>> wants to push the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> chrome platform but that is targeted at laptops and low
>>> >>>> powered
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> desktop and so again as a tablet it can work but might
>>> >>>> be rough
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> edges.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard good things about the Microsoft surface
>>> >>>> line, it again is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a laptop but reports are it is an okay tablet when you
>>> >>>> detach the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. Reports all agree though, a lot of the
>>> >>>> hardware lacks
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> robustness and will break if you look at it wrong. Pay
>>> >>>> extra for
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> business class and get a good brand.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are also Linux tablets, but even the enthusiasts
>>> >>>> admit they are
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> not ready for real use. This might actually change this
>>> >>>> year, we will
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> see...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Which is why the iPad is the tablet most people with a
>>> >>>> tablet get.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing else is there.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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