[AT] OT — Tablet computers

Mike M meulenms at gmx.com
Tue Apr 14 13:29:44 PDT 2020


Thanks Spencer, I will look for a straight up I-Pad, if they do offer
student discounts, my daughter has an .edu account we can use. I'm not
anti Apple per se, but I grew up on Microsoft in college with Windows
using version 3.1. As I understand it Apple, even though superior, would
not grant licensing for their operating system, so most software was
written for Windows. Deep down, I know that Apple is a better product,
but at times it doesn't play well with others. The reason my wife's
I-pad is so slow is that I cannot find any third party ad blocking
software for it. My windows machine is much faster due to the fact I can
run several anti ad ware blocking programs on it, and rarely see an ad.
I had to try and diagnose a computer problems the other day and had to
go back to IE9, to eliminate the browser as the problem. Holy crap, if I
had to put up with that many ad's and popups everyday, I wouldn't use
the Internet.

Thanks,
Mike M

On 4/14/2020 4:12 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> First off:  great gift idea.   I’m sure she’ll appreciate it.
>
>  Apple keeps a really tight control on prices and their partners can’t
> undercut them by much.  The few bucks you might save at Newegg may not
> be worth it since Apple presale support is pretty good. In addition if
> you buy from Apple I understand they take trade-ins. At least get some
> credit on your wife’s current iPad.
>
> Also get the model that is just “iPad“. There is an iPad Pro, iPad
> Air, etc. Just the straight up iPad is what you need. 32 GB model
> should be plenty as well since she doesn’t use the camera.    Might
> want to double check her current usage tho to be sure.   She might
> also start using the camera when she sees how good the camera has gotten.
>
> Connectors have changed quite a bit over the years. If she has any
> devices she wants to plug-in you might need to check on getting an
> adapter.   I guess that can come after the unwrapping.
>
> As an aside:  I’ve been doing software for a living for a long time
> and I have never understood many folks reluctance to use Apple
> products. Sure, they are expensive. But they’re really good products
> and Apple is more likely than any other vendor to support their
> customers, back their product and protect your privacy. Those are
> important things to me. Full disclosure:  I have a personal Mac and a
> work Mac.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Spencer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 14, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>>  So I'm an Apple newb, and prefer to stay that way. I have always
>> found that I get the most bang for my computer buck if I buy last
>> years latest and greatest, when the purist need the absolute latest
>> model. She doesn't use the camera, so that's a feature that I'm not
>> concerned about. What model has the fastest processing speed, and
>> will give me the most bang for my buck?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike M
>>
>>
>> On 4/14/2020 12:44 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>> I made the mistake of looking at Newegg..., now I want an iPad!
>>>
>>> SO
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:24 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Thanks guys, I'll check the Apple refurbished and the Newegg site.
>>>
>>>     Mike M
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 4/14/2020 1:25 AM, Tyler Juranek wrote:
>>>     > Hi Mike,
>>>     >   Have you ever thought about trying Newegg? I don't know if
>>>     they sell
>>>     > Apple products, but I'll tell you my story.
>>>     >   Back in 2015, I bought an HP probook. One of my buddies is an
>>>     > assistive tech dealer. Since I am visually impaired, I thought
>>>     I'd be
>>>     > nice and give him some business, even though I can go buy a
>>>     computer
>>>     > and set it up myself.
>>>     >   Anyway, I used the livin' crap out of it. Jump ahead to
>>>     December of
>>>     > 2019. Windows 7 was about to go bye bye in January. I thought
>>>     I would
>>>     > just upgrade the one I had. Wrong.
>>>     >   Since I am a power user, I knew a new computer was in order.
>>>     I needed
>>>     > something powerful, as not only do I do the basics, but I host an
>>>     > internet radio program, broadcast live events, do the books for my
>>>     > business, etc. So I called HP. For everything I needed, the
>>>     thing was
>>>     > going to be 3 grand! I got on Newegg and bought the same exact
>>>     > computer for $1100. I am very happy with it now. I would check on
>>>     > Newegg for a tablet like your wife wants. I would bet they
>>>     have it.
>>>     >   Tractor note: I really need to get the Oliver 770 out and
>>>     ready to go
>>>     > for the rides this summer, but its to cold and rainy to do so.
>>>     >   Good Luck,
>>>     >   Tyler Juranek
>>>     >   IA
>>>     >
>>>     > On 4/13/20, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>     <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>     >> Note, my wife has no idea that this is coming, I just hear
>>>     her complain
>>>     >> about it enough to know she needs a new one. I have a love/hate
>>>     >> relationship with Apple, yes they work, but man are they spendy.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Mike M
>>>     >>
>>>     >> On 4/13/2020 10:33 PM, Chuck Bealke wrote:
>>>     >>> Five years ago Shirlee bought a 12” iPad. I thought it too
>>>     big and pricey
>>>     >>> but withheld comment. Good thing.  Ever since she has spent
>>>     a good part of
>>>     >>> her day with it and loves it for all kinds of things. Even
>>>     lugged it along
>>>     >>> on a round the world trip (ignoring my advice) and had WiFi
>>>     on ship and
>>>     >>> hotels for most of trip.
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Cecil Bearden
>>>     <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>> My experience after 40 years of marriage in August is just
>>>     pony up the
>>>     >>>> money to let her buy what she wants and don't try to
>>>     influence her
>>>     >>>> decision.  That way if the one she gets is obsolete or has
>>>     to be changed
>>>     >>>> in the next 6 months It shouldn't be your fault.   Note I said
>>>     >>>> Shouldn't.................
>>>     >>>> Cecil
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>>> On 4/13/2020 5:37 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>>     >>>>> Along the same lines your cell carrier might have specials
>>>     on tablets as
>>>     >>>>> part of phone and/or contract renewal promotions. You
>>>     might want to look
>>>     >>>>> into that.  I am with AT&T and I know I just heard of a
>>>     deal where if
>>>     >>>>> you buy an iPhone at your renewal the pad was free or 
>>>     real cheap.
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>> Of course, as is usual with my luck, the deal comes out
>>>     just a few
>>>     >>>>> months after we traded/renews my wife’s iPhone...
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Claude Kyker
>>>     <claudekyker at gmail.com <mailto:claudekyker at gmail.com>>
>>>     >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>     >>>>>> Something to be aware of is whether to get “WIFI only “
>>>     or get one
>>>     >>>>>> that is capable of using cellular data. WIFI only is good
>>>     when you have
>>>     >>>>>> access to WIFI,  cellular data can be used anywhere cel
>>>     signal is
>>>     >>>>>> available. Not saying what you need, just making sure you
>>>     are aware.
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>> Claude
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>>     <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>> Ugh, not what I wanted to hear, but it sounds like a
>>>     newer Apple is
>>>     >>>>>>> the
>>>     >>>>>>> way to go. All their work computers are Windows based
>>>     and sometimes
>>>     >>>>>>> they
>>>     >>>>>>> just don't play together well.
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>> Mike M
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2020 4:08 PM, Henry Miller wrote:
>>>     >>>>>>>> There are not many choices.
>>>     >>>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>> Google has decided that androids are phones and so the
>>>     tablet
>>>     >>>>>>>> offerings have a bit of a not quite there feel. They
>>>     work, but there
>>>     >>>>>>>> are rough edges depending on how the specific
>>>     manufacturer supports
>>>     >>>>>>>> it (Samsung might okay as they have budget). Google
>>>     wants to push the
>>>     >>>>>>>> chrome platform but that is targeted at laptops and low
>>>     powered
>>>     >>>>>>>> desktop and so again as a tablet it can work but might
>>>     be rough
>>>     >>>>>>>> edges.
>>>     >>>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>> I've heard good things about the Microsoft surface
>>>     line, it again is
>>>     >>>>>>>> a laptop but reports are it is an okay tablet when you
>>>     detach the
>>>     >>>>>>>> keyboard. Reports all agree though, a lot of the
>>>     hardware lacks
>>>     >>>>>>>> robustness and will break if you look at it wrong. Pay
>>>     extra for
>>>     >>>>>>>> business class and get a good brand.
>>>     >>>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>> There are also Linux tablets, but even the enthusiasts
>>>     admit they are
>>>     >>>>>>>> not ready for real use. This might actually change this
>>>     year, we will
>>>     >>>>>>>> see...
>>>     >>>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>> Which is why the iPad is the tablet most people with a
>>>     tablet get.
>>>     >>>>>>>> Nothing else is there.
>>>     >>>>>>>>
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