[AT] 2. Re: '51 JD A PROGRESS!!!! (deanvp at att.net) + PROGRESS on the '49 A wheels!

STEVE ALLEN steveallen855 at centurytel.net
Sun Apr 19 16:58:10 PDT 2020


Dean and Cecil,

The pic shows the INSIDE of the drum, where the brake shoes run.  

As for the carb, I have the drain cock open on the carb bowl--that makes no difference.  Also, I replaced the needle-and-seat, and I have verified that they are not stuck closed.  The only way the sediment bowl will fill is if it is loose enough for gas to run out the top of it.  More will run out there than will drip out of the carb.  The fuel line is clear, the screens and gaskets are all new, clean, and in the right places.  That's why I am so confused.

While waiting on the new distributor cap and thinking about this fuel headache, my boy and I cut grass today.  Then, we decided to work some more on the '49 A wheels I wrote about last year (I labeled it a '48, but the numbers apparently have been revised to say it is a '49).  Anyway, we took the new electric impact out to the shed to see if it would have any effect on those remaining lug bolts on the wheel I heated, pounded on, and otherwise cussed so long.  Hey, Presto! it spun them all out in a trice.  Literally three minutes, and all were out.  

Then, I figures, what the hey?  let's try the other wheel.  I had heated it some but not nearly as much.  We got 2 out of the 7.  Tuesday, if my plans hold, we'll get the torch out there and apply more heat and get the others.  Since the tractor is so close to the shed wall, I had to drill a hole in the cedar siding to get the impact on the left side.  Unorthodox, but I was NOT going to try to move the tractor at that point.  I didn't want to have to rebuild my cribbing.

Anyway, the weekend has had its challenges and rewards.  I hope the info above helps folks understand the situation with the fuel and the brakes for the '51.

Thanks for all the help so far!

The "original" Steve Allen




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Steve,

Having a little trouble figuring out if that is the back side of the face of the drum or not but that particular surface just needs to clean enough to remove  really major surface issues. The only side that is somewhat sensitive is the inside surface of the drum that the brake shoe lining rubs against when activated to stop. .  

After cleaning all loose parts should rotate and slide in their respective holes with very little finger pressure, No friction. These are the parts I put anti-seize grease on to try oi keep them from rusting again but not get grease on the brake shoe surface.   Be somewhat skimpy with the grease but make sure all surfaces of the moving parts have been covered. 

Does the fuel run out of the carburetor bowl when the sediment bowl fills up? If not the carburetor float needle and seat is sticking closed.  In a properly sealed system the sediment  bulb will not fill up because the float probably is shutting off fuel flow to the carburetor because that carburetor bowl is probably already full.  Therefore you have an airlock. I usually loosen the carburetor drain a little and let some fuel run out to fill the bowl.  If no fuel comes out of the carburetor fuel bowl then you have a carburetor float that is sticking or a carburetor needle sticking in its seat.  Once some fuel comes out of the carburetor bowl drain the sediment bulb should fill up. Now having that in turn drip or leak when the bulb is full is kind of incongruous since you had an air tight air lock before. Sure its just not residue from when you were filling up the bulb?

But..... if none of that makes sense and you can get fuel into the carburetor bowl and you can get the sediment bowl to fill by lessening it and the tractor will run ignore the problem temporarily. And I will think on it.   Its been awhile since I've had to deal with a bowl that won't fill.  But I have been there done that. 

Dean VP
Apache Junction, AZ

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I have had a rusty screen on top of the bowl, inside the housing that 
would prevent gas from going through.?? I just pull the screen out and 
cut the line and install an inline filter.? I don't run any gas engine 
without inline filters.
Cecil



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