[AT] OT Abrams tanks

Sun Sep 22 15:33:22 PDT 2019

Once the filter catches enough sand, it doesn’t let a lot of air thru. It’s hard to change a filter while you’re in the air. Filters clog real easily with the fine sand in Iraq, it’s almost a powder. When a helicopter takes off or lands, it kicks up an awful lot of sand and it gets sucked right into the filters. The turbines suck a lot of air and you take in a lot of everything.

On the Abrams we went to a self cleaning filter system that blows the filters clean and exhaust the sand out the side. You could probably do some sand blasting when it happens. We still have to do filter cleaning since you never really get it 100% clean.

----- Original Message -----
From: Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
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I remember many years back when they were trying to liberate some 
hostages ( I think I remember it right ) they lost over 1/2 of the 
helicopters during the mission to dust in the turbines.  At the time I 
wondered why it could not be filtered out.  We have a commercial a/c 
manufacturer, Temtrol,  in Okarche,  a few miles West of here.  They had 
a contract to supply air conditioners to Iraq, they had to use a hard 
stainless steel for covers, coils and everything exposed due to being in 
a constant sandblasting from the wind and sand.

Cecil

On 9/22/2019 1:22 PM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
> The sand in Iraq was a big problem. It’s a very fine dust and gets into everything, clogging filters and causing premature wear.
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> I remember watching a TV clip of soldiers changing out an engine during a sand storm in Iraq.
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M88_Recovery_Vehicle#/media/File:M88_pulling_M1_engine.jpg
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> From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of Jack
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> What can you tell us about the M88A2 Hercules.
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> [szabelski at wildblue.net] You can go on-line and read about the tank battles as written by several tankers who where there. Try searching for anything related to “73 Easting” that was one of the major tank battles and is now referenced as the last great tank battle of today. You should be able to also find pictures of the Soviet made tanks with their turrets blown clean off, some as much as 100+ feet from the chassis.
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> I had the pleasure of working with one retired colonel who was part of a fight between his platoon of four tanks and an entire Iraqi armored brigade. He was sent ahead of his US battalion to scout out an area on the other side of some burning oil fields. They couldn’t see what was on the other side through all the smoke and didn’t want to drive into an ambush. When his platoon came out the other side, they were facing a dug in Iraqi brigade in standard Soviet deployment. Without hesitating they opened fire on the Iraqis while running at full speed. In less than about 20 minutes they wiped out the entire Iraqi brigade and never took a hit. He later was reprimanded by his commander because he didn’t report back by radio that he was engaging multiple enemy tanks and requesting assistance. His defense was that he was a little busy calling shots and didn’t have time to to notify his commander.
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> There was a History Channel documentary made about the tank battles during the Iraqi war. I think it was a series of stories about all the tank battles of that war and WWII (Greatest Tank Battles???). You might be able to find it on- line somewhere.
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> [James Peck] The same fellow states that in the Kuwait war, they were only firing when fired upon. A pair of Abrams received fire from a group of Soviet made Iraqi tanks. One Abrams smoked 7 of the enemy tanks and the other smoked 4.
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> At one point they were approached by hundreds of Iraqi soldiers holding their rifles above their heads with white rags attached. The Iraqis had ripped uniforms, no food, no water, and were generally in bad shape.
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