[AT] Statistics In Tractor Manufacturing Was Bicycle Program

[Al Jones]

No.  If your tachometer goes bad, you get a new one with 0000.0 hours.

Al

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:52 PM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:

> Probably not, and the mileage on the title of an auto or truck is
> nothing that can be relied on...   I used to be able to tell by the wear
> on floorboards, rust, paint scratches etc if a trucks mileage was
> right.  Tractors are a different animal.  Usually just change the tires
> and if repainted, change the hoses and belts, new seat and cab interior
> and it is a new tractor.
>
> Cecil
>
> On 9/15/2019 8:36 PM, Jack wrote:
> > Tractors are not titled. Automobiles and trucks are. When you sell an
> auto, you record the mileage at time of sale and your signature. Is it even
> illegal to alter the hour meter on a tractor?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of Cecil
> Bearden
> > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 7:33 PM
> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Statistics In Tractor Manufacturing Was Bicycle Program
> >
> > The New Holland Money Pit is what it is because somewhere in its history
> the hour meter was turned back.  New tires were installed and it was made
> to look like a 5 yr old tractor with about 200 hrs per year.
> > Cecil
> >
> > On 9/14/2019 10:26 AM, James Peck wrote:
> >> Some years ago I did participate in an academic Statistical Quality
> Control course. Much of the course involved the Weibull Distribution. If I
> remember correctly, the Weibull Curve predicted the lifespan of a
> manufactured assembly such as a tractor.  It appears to be a gift from the
> mathematicians.
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weibull_distribution
> >>
> >> The same distribution probably predicts that Cecil’s New Holland money
> pit will continue to be so and will suffer an early demise.
> >>
> >> [Stephen Offiler] I never took a whole semester of Statistics.
> Instead, we had a course called Engineering Experimentation, which was
> heavy on experiment design and statistical data analysis.  That gave me a
> very good appreciation for the practical application of statistics.   Out
> in the real world, on-the-job training programs in quality control
> principles in manufacturing (Deming, Juran, Lean Six Sigma) continued to
> solidify the practical applications.
> >>
> >> [Cecil Bearden] Steve: I nearly flunked statistics I only passed
> because I was a graduating senior.  However, I did flunk Rocks & Clods 2124
> and had to find another 4 hours to graduate.   Then 35 years later I retire
> as a Geotechnical engineer designing foundations. !!!
> >>
> >> [Stephen Offiler] I'm not sure if that is an interesting statistic, or
> simply predictable statistically.  All you just said is that a bell-curve
> distribution for 2-year degrees overlaps a bell-curve distribution for
> 4-year degrees.
> >>
> >> [ James Peck] The interesting statistic is that some technical 2 year
> programs have higher starting incomes than many 4 year degree programs.
> People who complete such a program can later take a 2+2 program to get a
> four year degree if they choose.
> >>
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