[AT] Now Thunderbird issue

[Mike M]

Test to Phil in TX, if this works its the reply to list issue

Mike M

On 9/15/2019 7:49 PM, pga2 at BasicISP.net wrote:
> Mike, Thunderbird does the same to me. I finally learned to make the address change before I send.
>
> Phil in TX
>
> --- meulenms at gmx.com wrote:
>
> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Agricultural Equipment Diagnostic Technicians
> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 16:16:09 -0400
>
> I see that my reply went to the list, but I had to manually change your
> copper.net address to the ATIS address, this is a new problem. I suspect
> it's a Thunderbird issue.
>
> Regards,
> Mike M
>
>
> On 9/15/2019 4:17 PM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
>> I got it..
>> Cecil
>> Mike, you have reiterated what I said a few weeks back.  The schools
>> do not teach life skills anymore.   A couple of counties over East a
>> school district had a Mom whose kids wanted a 4H club.  They convinced
>> the Superintendent to allow them to have a 4H club.  The first
>> meeting to determine interest they expected maybe 8 to 10 kids.  They
>> had 35.  Now the club has 55 regular members.  $H is not just
>> agriculture, and raising calves or sheep, it teaches those kids life
>> skills in a group situation..   After raising sheep in addition to
>> cattle for the last 20 years, I firmly believe if a kid can raise a
>> lamb to show in a ring, they can work with nearly anyone!   I also
>> believe if all kids had to care for a couple of bottle baby lambs and
>> raise them, they would be much better parents later on...
>>
>> The old high school shop classes both wood and metal and auto gave the
>> students a chance to see if they wanted to do something besides sit
>> behind a desk.   I was on a construction site with carpenters from as
>> soon as I was out of diapers until I started school.  Then in the
>> summers I was back on the site.  My Uncle was an ex Seabee and a
>> carpenter.  My Dad worked as a carpenter while he went to college
>> after I was born and my mother worked.  When I was 13, I started
>> working in a tractor shop about a mile away from home.  I rode my Bike
>> there.  I was in auto shop in high school. If my folks had not
>> threatened to throw me out, I would have gone through diesel school at
>> OSU tech in Okmulgee, and majored in diesel injection.  I really
>> believe I would have had my own shop...   I still remember my mothers
>> words "You just want to be an old grease monkey!"
>>
>> Just my $0.02
>>
>> Cecil
>>
>> On 9/15/2019 2:58 PM, Mike M wrote:
>>> Yes James, usually 50-55 hours. There are weeks he will put in 80, but
>>> it's his choice. My main point is the trades have been neglected in high
>>> schools that push everyone towards college, when some are kids are
>>> better suited to learning by watching and helping. He's done well
>>> enough, that he can comfortably retire at 50.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> PS - something has changed and my replies are only going to the original
>>> poster.
>>>
>>> On 9/15/2019 9:05 AM, James Peck wrote:
>>>> He is working some overtime.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:34 PM
>>>> To: James Peck <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Agricultural Equipment Diagnostic Technicians
>>>>
>>>> A good friend of mine went through high school, then into an
>>>> apprenticeship program for pipe fitting and  HVAC, he's now an
>>>> Unlimited Tonnage Journeyman pipe fitter and makes well into the 6
>>>> figures without having to take any of the BS college courses.
>>>>
>>>> Mike M
>>>>
>>>> On 9/14/2019 9:35 AM, James Peck wrote:
>>>>> No mention of tractor mechanics, but this report seconds Cecil's
>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://opportunityamericaonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/OA_App
>>>>> renticeshipReport_2019.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> [cecil] <snip> Personally I think the apprenticeship programs are the
>>>>> way to go.   <snip> _______________________________________________
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