[AT] 1970's farm equipment

Tue Oct 22 11:49:48 PDT 2019

Connecting accents to old tractors... My 1947 Farmall Cub tends to mumble
badly when l ask too much of it. I'm not sure what it is saying and I'm not
sure that I want to know...
We have a diverse collection of friends, many with accents. Many years ago
I became friends with our county extension agent who came from India. All
of the time I knew him I had a little trouble understanding him for the
first 5 minutes. After a bit I would pick up on his speech patterns and
then I was fine. We have had Chinese friends for quite a few years and they
are not bad to talk with since they seem to be very careful as they speak.
We are now friends with a Greek couple (and their family) and we all do
pretty well. Sometimes she struggles to find a word or two and I struggle
to even remember their last name. "It''s all Greek to me".  :-)

Back to old tractors.
My Ferguson TO-20 is my most used tractor and it is still away from home on
display duty at the Super Kroger's over in the next county west. I loaned
it to them last year but it came home after a long weekend. It's been there
for several weeks now and I'm starting to miss it a lot. I use the little
Case VAC a fair amount but it doesn't have a 3 point and about everything
else needs something fixed... I guess I need to call somebody. Maybe next
time I will send my Allis C. Not only does it not have 3 point hitch it is
awkward as hell to get off and on. I could send my MM-R but they need to
move them around to set up the display and that jumpy hand clutch could
kill with somebody inexperienced at the wheel. I have a Ford 8N that only
needs about two days of work to be usable but I can't seem to get to it.
This has been an awful weather year to get things done. I felt really sorry
for my still farming neighbors this year. Many couldn't get stuff in the
ground, a lot of stuff drowned out and then the dry weather hit with all of
that heat that had a lot of crops in serious stress.
Amen Stephen... I like to think that a lot of us long timers have become
much more than list members thanks to a fair amount of off topic
discussions.
Spencer has long given a piece of advice that I adopted to some groups I
managed. Basically it's "If you don't care for the current discussions
don't complain, start a discussion that does interest you". It always
seemed like very good advice. Moe pretty much did that with the mention of
his tractor in his message. My own John Deere A is in a kind of sad state
right now. Needs tires and needs the engine gone through. It's not really
all that bad. If I can get part of my shop more empty and part of it closed
in to where I can actually heat it I should get a lot of stuff caught up.
Heating and a lot more light will make a big difference.
More on that Deere A later.
We  had an inch of badly needed rain yesterday, greening up already.

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On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:41 PM <szabelski at wildblue.net> wrote:

> Just finished plowing the garden, now I have to rototill all the ruts In
> the back yard that I made earlier in the year when I was trying to connect
> the mower to the tractor. I’m probably going to have to do some filling in
> since they were deep enough then to require a tow to get the tractor out of
> the mud. Just love those two months of constant rain.
>
> After that I’ve got to run around and cut the branches on all the trees
> that kept knocking my hat off all summer. Most require me to duck below the
> steering wheel in order to keep my face from being ripped up. My fault
> since I haven’t trimmed them in three years. Should be able to get it done
> in two or three days.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Moe Fretz <tubetester at gmail.com>
> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 10:36:34 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [AT] 1970's farm equipment
>
> Tractor related?????????
>
> Some how we've gone from Antique Tractors.
> To discussing (bragging) about all
> the engineering courses we've taken or should have.
> To offshore manufacturing quality.
> To the help line accents.
> And now we are into computer IT stuff we know about.
> Could have, would have installed. up grading, what have you.
>
> Not much tractor related stuff in the last few days.
>
> My 1936 John Deere AO qualifies as an antique.
> It does have any software needing to be upgraded.
> No help line available or needed.
> And you don't need to be an engineer to figure how it works.
>
>
>
> $-------&
> Moe F.
>
>
> Ontario, Canada
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:55 AM ustonThomas Mehrkam <
> tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> > In the 70s we all had to take corporate value engineering classes. "How
> to
> > engineer all the value out." Some people did not have enough sense it
> > ignore the BS.
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > <
> https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 7:08 AM, Thomas Mehrkam
> > <tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Windows 10 convinced me it was time to retire.
> >
> > I developed software mainly for Unix and Linux with some Vax VMS?? DX10
> > one of T.Is systems and many real time OS for Motorola 68000, TI 9900,
> > Power PC etc.?? Much of the early work in machine language. With some
> > Windoze thrown in. XP and 7 was ok.?? Almost great compared to XP.
> >
> > XP convinced me it was time to retire. The worse of Microsoft's crap
> > OS's. Even worse than writing assembly and Cobal for Univac 1108
> > systems. :-{?? We built a Seismic Acquisition system that could record
> > data from 40,000 stations at a 2MS sample rate.?? XP brought that to a
> > stand still. The network stack sucked we went down to maybe 5,000
> > stations. :-{
> >
> >
> > On 10/21/2019 11:45 AM, Phil Auten wrote:
> > > I usually need to write stuff like that down, and I am/was a
> > > computer/IT tech. Now, where'd I put my pencil?
> > >
> > > I've been out of the computer biz,except for fixing my own, since 2011
> > > and I am amazed how much it has changed since then. I have two working
> > > computers, both laptops. The one I am on now is the newest and it is
> > > running Vista (yuck). The other one is about a 2006 model and runs XP.
> > > That one I need to redo and load Linux so it will keep up.
> > >
> > > Phil in TX
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/20/2019 11:39 PM, deanvp at att.net wrote:
> > >> James,
> > >>
> > >> ?? Every time I go shopping at the local Costco I marvel at how many
> > >> foreigners we have here in WA?? I'm sure driven by the High Tech
> > >> industries
> > >> like Microsoft and Amazon. It used to be the Oriental's that were
> > >> predominate. Now it seems to be East Indians. I'm sure much of our
> > >> technical
> > >> knowledge is eventually ending up back in India.?? However, that
> > >> doesn't seem
> > >> to apply to those who work in the technical support groups we call
> > >> for help.
> > >> I have completely given up on calling any kind of help line for
> > >> anything.
> > >> First because they really don't know very much and secondly their
> accent
> > >> combined with my loss of hearing makes understanding them almost
> > >> impossible.
> > >> I will work Google search until I find the answer I'm looking for. I
> > >> just
> > >> went through that recently.?? Some time in the past I changed from
> > double
> > >> click to single click file opening on my mouse. Long enough ago I had
> > >> forgotten how I did it.?? For me the obvious place to look was on the
> > >> setup
> > >> of the mouse. Wrong.?? I put up with the change far too long and
> > >> finally I
> > >> had enough.?? But couldn't remember how to fix it. Google came to the
> > >> rescue.
> > >> In Win 10. one has to get into File Explorer, view, options, change
> > >> options
> > >> to get to that setting.?? How in the hell I found that the first time
> is
> > >> beyond me?? But all is now cool again.???? Simple but frustrating.
> > >>
> > >> Dean VP
> > >> Snohomish, WA 98290
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of James
> Peck
> > >> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 11:18 AM
> > >> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
> > >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [AT] 1970's farm equipment
> > >>
> > >> I worked for a GM division a little in the late sixties. The focus
> > >> then was
> > >> on making all components so they ended their life at 10 years. The
> items
> > >> that lasted longer were made too well.
> > >>
> > >> [Henry Miller] The 1970s when efficiency experts ruled every thing
> > >> with the
> > >> bean counters. Cut cost and quality were number one. The auto world
> > >> had it
> > >> worse than most because they suddenly had to meet emissions rules
> > >> that they
> > >> didn't really know how to do and so rube Goldberg contraptions were
> > >> designed
> > >> to that standard with predictable results.
> > >>
> > >> Modern just in time is often very inefficient, but the cost savings
> > >> elsewhere make it vastly more cost effective. Consumers have also
> > >> caught on
> > >> to the idea that quality is sometimes worth paying for. Where the
> above
> > >> doesn't apply is a race to the bottom that we can't win. China, like
> > >> Taiwan
> > >> and Japan before them is starting to drop out of the game. Africa is
> > >> probably next in my opinion: Vietnam and Pakistan play a bit but they
> > >> are
> > >> not large enough and to beat China and they are not far behind China
> > >> into
> > >> getting out of that hole. India could win for a while, but they have
> > >> a lot
> > >> of smart people who know how to make quality (training on the job in
> > >> the US
> > >> or Europe) and would rather skip the cheap junk period.
> > >>
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Francis Robinson
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Central Indiana USA
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