[AT] weighted tires or not

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Mon May 27 06:32:54 PDT 2019 

El Reno had hell 2 nights ago.  Also some of OKC.  El Reno has flooding 
from the river.  The Army Corps is working overtime.

Here is the link to the lake levels...... 
http://www.swt-wc.usace.army.mil/Daily_Morning_Reservoir_Report.pdf

We are on high ground here.  However, this high ground is what is left 
of the upper part of the Permian sea bed.  It is tight red clay about 2 
to 4 ft deep over a 80ft thick layer of red shale. We are 10 inches 
above "normal" here and with low ground temps water is standing from 1 
to 4 inches deep on the flat ground.  It is beginning to get stagnant.  
I am using my "new" D6D to build creek crossings for my cattle and my 
atv.  I spent yesterday with the E110B cleaning out a creek and getting 
enough shale in the process to build another crossing.   Problem is when 
I calculate the culvert needed for one road crossing that only drains 20 
acres with the soil type and the land slope, I need a 4ft diameter pipe 
to handle the 100 yr flood.  That is a $1500 pipe for one crossing.  I 
am trying to build holding ponds for some of my road crossings, but they 
are a drop in the bucket.  We spent $9000 for shale just before these 
rains started to fix the road entrance and 2 crossings so we could feed 
our cows.  That shale is over 1/4 gone due to the rain...  I had some 
pipes in the roadway, but the overflow washed the shale down the creek 
and trying to get it back is futile at best.

We should be cutting hay now, but the wet weather has ruined anything 
that was cut, and the ground is too wet to cut.   I sowed certified Rye 
seed on one of my fields last fall, it was full of jointed goatgrass, a 
invasive species  that takes over a wheat field and doesn't have a leaf 
structure that allows spray to be effective.  It does not have any 
leaves for forage either.  The wheat seed I saved that came straight of 
the combine did nto have anything but wheat in it.    This is the 3rd 
time I have been screwed by the "certified" and state licensed seed 
dealers....  I need to mow it down before it matures, I would like to 
just plow the field up, but I have been trying to get it established in 
Native grass.  This rain has got the native growing, if I plow it I will 
lose the native....  If it ever gets dry enough I can get the tractor 
over it, I will mow it down...

Someone on this list said it best a few years back.  A dry year will 
scare you, but a wet year will kill you.

Cecil



On 5/27/2019 7:41 AM, Mark Johnson wrote:
> Cecil:
>
> Depending on where in OK you are located, water in the tires may be 
> the last d**n thing you need right now.
>
> Hope you are faring better than some in your state...
>
> Mark J
>
> On 5/26/2019 5:31 PM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
>> My 8345 and my new 1220 Belarus tractors don't have water in the 
>> tires.  I was going to put it in the 1220, but until I get the clutch 
>> replaced,  It is just added weight to haul 100 miles to the shop.    
>> The 8345 is my go to tractor for most everything.  It has a loader on 
>> it.  I keep a bale spike on the rear and if I need extra weight I st 
>> ab a bale on the back.  It will handle a bale on the forks without a 
>> bale on the back, but I always stab a bale first before carrying one 
>> on the forks.   I haul 2 on the forks a lot of times with one on the 
>> back.   When I backed it into another bale spike and stabbed a rear 
>> tire, it was a lot easier to repair without any water..!!  I ordered 
>> a 20 inch diamond boot from Gempler's  used some of that blue and you 
>> cannot tell where I stabbed it.
>>
>> I digress, but if I could use wheel weights and get enough weight, I 
>> think I would use them instead of the water...
>>
>> Cecil
>>
>> On 5/26/2019 9:31 AM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>> I don’t do tillage but I do like the extra weight  of loaded tires 
>>> on the Ford.  It keeps the hay wagon and baler from pushing it 
>>> around.   So your use of that wagon may be the deciding factor.   
>>> Even with loaded tires in my Ford, that 454 runs about 600-800 
>>> pounds heavier so you may not need it.
>>>
>>> Other than that I can’t think of one advantage of loaded tires in my 
>>> current use of the tractor.
>>>
>>> One year when I get around to redoing the brakes I’m going to try to 
>>> pull the wagon around behind the baler.    I probably need weights 
>>> at that point too.  Before then I need brakes that are better than 
>>> 30% effective so I don’t kill myself or the man on wagon.
>>>
>>> Spencer Yost
>>>
>>>> On May 26, 2019, at 9:46 AM, Carl Gogol <cgogol1971 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My father, after replacing the landside tire on the JD 60, would 
>>>> add water to it for plowing and heavy tillage. Between tillage 
>>>> seasons (and especially winter) would drain it as well you can and 
>>>> refill with air.  Not a job that takes a lot of time, especially if 
>>>> you have other things you can do while filling or draining.
>>>> Carl, Manlius NY
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of John Hall
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>>>> Subject: [AT] weighted tires or not
>>>>
>>>>   Some of you guys may remember I had to replace the tires on our 
>>>> 454 Utility tractor a couple months ago (about 40hp).  I didn't 
>>>> have time to add water to them before I started using it. One of 
>>>> the first jobs was to spray some wet fields. Got to thinking, this 
>>>> thing weighs about 1,000 lbs less now---that is a good thing in wet 
>>>> ground. Spraying, mowing, tedding hay is about all I do with this 
>>>> one. Occasionally I have to move a loaded hay wagon with it 
>>>> (probably about 5-7,000 lbs). Wondering if I should leave the fluid 
>>>> out of the tires?  We've had this tractor since
>>>> 72 and it has always had loaded tires. The only time I am thinking 
>>>> I may really need them loaded is using a scrape blade (for heavy 
>>>> work, not touching up a driveway), in the snow, it isn't often I 
>>>> have to scrape snow but it happens every few years, or moving heavy 
>>>> wagons--especially backing them up. Tractor is not 4WD, it does 
>>>> have a set of wheel weights (always has had) and we live on some 
>>>> rolling hills--there are places you don't go with any tractor. 
>>>> Whats the groups thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> John Hall
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