[AT] IH Doncaster was Farmall 404 had Category 1 3 point hitch.

[Al Jones]

 Doncaster continued to make the caseIH 85 series and their
descendants which were carried over from IH with different sheet
metal. When they became the CX series they unfortunately got Perkins
engines instead of the old IH designed engines. Looks like caseIH sold the
plant in 2001.  McCormick (Landini) then built tractors there which were
basically the old caseIH series.  Plant closed in 2007.

The 424 gasoline tractors were built at Doncaster from the flywheel back.
The diesels were built with their engine.  Louisville added sheet metal,
front axle,  wheels & tires, gasoline engine, etc.

Al



On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:58 AM James Peck <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Looks like Doncaster did not survive the purchase of IH by Case.
>
>
> http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/3/3/330-international-harvester-424.html
>
> Was the 424 designed in the UK and then manufactured in Doncaster and
> Louisville?
>
>
> http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/3/3/330-international-harvester-424.html
>
> Al Jones] 404 and 504 were the first American IH tractors with three point
> hitch and draft control.  There were several 40's around here, all
> International (utility) versions, not Farmall row-crops.  They were 3 plow
> tractors (36 hp)  in the same class as the MF 135, Ford whatever, etc.
>
> The family lineage from the Farmall C is very evident if you park them
> side by side.  The C-135 engine looks almost identical to the C-113 and
> C-123 in the C and Super C.
>
> My dad bought a new 424 instead of a 404.  From a distance they look
> identical until you get closer.  They have the same horsepower.  The 424
> was based on the British IH B-414. He liked the 8 speed transmission and
> the 424 had about a 6" shorter wheelbase.  424 also weighs more.  Without
> power steering the 404 handles much better.  Both tractors will pull the
> same implements around here.
>
> [James Peck] Tractor is red Tractor is narrow front Tractor does not have
> Fast Hitch But, it does have three point hitch. Draft sensing on the top
>
> https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=farmall&th=41568
>
> *                       By 1961, the tractor industry and their customers
> - the farmers - had reached a consensus that the Ford-Ferguson three-point
> hitch system was the best way to attach implements to the tractors. IH
> abandoned their own two-point hitch system for the three point with the
> introduction of the Models 404 and 504 with 36 and 45 HP respectively.
>
> https://livinghistoryfarm.org/farminginthe50s/machines_02.html
>
>
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