[AT] OT don't take any Buffalo Nickels and weather.
Cecil Bearden
crbearden at copper.net
Sun Jun 23 06:38:12 PDT 2019
Farmer
Interesting discussion on the terminology of things.. Here in
Oklahoma, there are so many things that you have to know the slang term
for in order to just survive.. Buffalo are Buffalo here, not Bison.. I
did not know why they were called Buffalo. Thanks for that lesson. I
learn so many things from talking with the old-timers and I found out at
a continuing education session Friday that I was considered to be one of
those...
We had over 30 inches of rain in 31 days in Central OK. Record rainfall
since 1895. The flat areas of the pasture now have water grass growing
in them. I tried to drain a spot yesterday while I had the dozer
running and nearly got stuck. There is a winch on that D6D but I have
not tried it out. I would have to use the 944 Cat to anchor it and it
was on the battery charger. The 944 has a 24volt generator that I guess
is not charging.. It takes an hour to remove all the panels to get at
it. The E110B trackhoe is still in need of another 10 gallons of
hydraulic oil after I replaced a boom cylinder ($1350), I have not tried
it out yet. The rain has delayed everything here. From getting
cattle worked to harvest to hay cutting. Thursday & Friday were the 2
dry days I had available, and I had to spend it setting in a mandatory
$400 continuing education session for my Engineering license. If this
continual rain does not stop soon, we are going to be in a world of
hurt. I saw some wheat fields cut yesterday that had large tracts left
uncut due to weeds. They were too wet to cut for hay. Marestail was
sticking up a foot above the wheat heads. Many fields are so wet that
4wd combines were making tracks over a foot deep. I saw one custom
harvester with rice combines on tracks and his grain carts were on
tracks. They were heading north. There may be a hay cutting if it
ever stops raining long enough to dry out, but the quality will be crap
because we don't dare fertilize when the rain following the fertilizer
application is so heavy the fertilizer is in the creek. We get 2-3
inches in less than an hour. I get reports from a private weather
station a mile away and many times it has shown over 4 inches an hour
rainfall rate. A few years ago, urbanized drainage used 4 inches per
hour as the 100 yr design flood. The grass has grown so fast that there
is no food value in it. I had to start feeding again because my mother
cows did not have milk with enough food value in it. Too much water.
The calves were getting scours from watery milk. I started feeding
every day with 15% protein cubes and after a week, the scours dried up.
The cows are also maintaining condition. Before feeding they were
losing condition. Like my Dad, I take pride in having cows that are
healthy and fat and stay that way. This has been the worst year for
livestock. We have had storm after storm with baseball size hail. The
high winds from downbursts in north central OK has left entire sections
with wheat lodged down.
The estimates for the wheat harvest are too optimistic. I have already
reserved wheat seed for sowing this fall.
I think it was you farmer that once said the old saying was "A dry year
will scare you, a wet year will kill you!" That saying has never been
more true.
The prospects for this year don't look good, but I am sure we will still
be here next year..
Cecil in the central OK swamp.
On 6/23/2019 2:52 AM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
> I find this discussion a little surprising... I was taught in about
> the 6th grade (in a small rural school in the 1950's) that what we all
> call buffalo are really scientifically true bison and that early
> explorers were just guessing as to what they were. It was much like
> them thinking at first that this was the far side of the world and
> them calling everybody "Indians". The name just stuck and so did buffalo.
> Even back when I was in school it was understood that most people
> would probably always continue to call them buffalo in casual
> conservation and I still do. By the time I learned that they were
> really bison I had already learned the words dog, cat, cow etc. and
> bison was a strange sounding name to me.
> Languages are funny things... Always evolving but not always in a good
> way. I have a few pet peeves from more recent years about how people
> butcher things. I watch a lot of DIY stuff and keep saying (mostly to
> the TV screen) "No, that is not ship-lap. Every old 8" board is not
> ship-lap!" or "No that is not a "cinder block! It is either a cement
> block or a concrete block... It is only a cinder block if it was
> produced using cinders for the aggregate and very few of those are
> being produced these days."
> Rambling farther off track (not a cinder track). :-)
> When Diana and I got married in June 1963 we rented a small house at
> the edge of town for a year and a half that was on a full basement all
> made of actual cinder block. When that first winter came along I got a
> real shock. The cinders were quite coarse and the block walls were not
> even close to being air tight. When the winter winds began to howl you
> could not heat the basement. If you lit a candle (I really did) and
> held it next to the west wall on a high wind day it would blow the
> candle out.
> Speaking of languages, we have become friends with a Greek family who
> have a local gyro based restaurant (pronounced ˈyērō). Really nice
> family. We were eating there a day or two ago and a lady and I believe
> her daughter sat a the booth behind me and were chatting. I wasn't
> sure what language they were speaking but it wasn't English. When
> things slowed down our friends came out to visit with them and I
> realized that that they had been chatting in Greek. It was a happy
> visit for the 4 of them and I had to chuckle a few times as they
> talked listening to them as all 4 of them flip-flopped from Greek to
> English over and over again. It was maybe about 60% Greek and 40%
> English. Our friends are quite good at English so it was funny hearing
> the sudden shift from rapid fire Greek to a perfectly enunciated full
> sentence or more in English then instantly back to Greek. I can only
> assume that some thoughts just might be easier to express in English
> and some easier in Greek. We have some Chinese friends but they always
> speak all Chinese or all English. We also have Hispanic friends and
> family and they also speak mostly all one or the other. I have always
> wished I could learn other languages but while I have learned many
> thing in my time, other languages are just not a big part of my skill
> set. I do speak American English, British English, Australian English
> and a little New Zealand English... :-) I do also speak a little
> dog, cat and horse.
> .
> Dang! I'm getting burned out on daily raining... Crops are all over
> the place in quality and some fields are still not planted and still
> standing water. One problem with a really wet spring here is that if
> the ground stays too wet too long the corn will not put down many deep
> roots then if it suddenly turns very dry it doesn't have a root system
> deep enough to get good moisture. If that happens the guys that use
> irrigation here may benefit from its use.
> It's been "interesting" with these everyday rains going past the local
> Whitecastle joint in a down pour of rain and seeing their sprinkler
> system running. It must be under "corporate control".
>
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> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 12:59 AM James Peck <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com
> <mailto:jamesgpeck at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I am a fan of the Lonesome Dove series, both the books and the
> miniseries, and even have been to one of the filming sites. One
> main character is Buffalo Hump. Maybe we can get author Larry
> McMurtry to rename him.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Hump
>
> The book 'War Of a Thousand Deserts" gives the Comanches credit
> for discombobulating Mexico enough for the US to win the 1846 war.
>
> https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300158373/war-thousand-deserts
>
> [James Peck] I was on a work related trip to a location along the
> old Erie Railroad right of way in western New York about 10 years
> ago and heard a man rant about the shortcomings of English
> speakers. He was upset that Beau Fleur had become Buffalo. This
> source says that is fake info.
>
> https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100616152325AAZECYp
>
> [Dean VP Snohomish, WA 98290] I'm sure "Buffalo Bill might
> disagree with this. 😊
>
> [szabelski at wildblue.net <mailto:szabelski at wildblue.net> The
> correct terminology is “BISON”. Bison are members of the bovine
> group “BUFFALO”. Bison are native to North and South America.
> Buffalo are native to Africa and Asia ( i.e.: Water Buffalo, etc).
>
> [James Peck] I was in a place where the TV was playing "Highway
> Through Hell" a few days ago. They were towing and removing
> vehicles and big loads on the Alaskan Highway. When they drove by
> a herd of what my first instinct would be to call "Buffalo", the
> Canadian accented truckers called them "Bison".
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_bison
>
> The show had some WW2 shots of tracked tractors pulling pan
> scrapers in the building of the highway.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Thru_Hell
>
>
> [Ralph] <snip>The bison herd are being fed a hay bale or two
> fairly regularly as the grass can't keep up with them. <snip>
>
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