[AT] OT stamping press pits

Ron Cook ron at lakeport-1.com
Thu Dec 12 06:59:26 PST 2019 

Here in my part of Iowa, $300 per acre is normal.

Ron Cook, Salix, IA

On 12/11/2019 10:19 PM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
> Wow!! $200/acre!!  That is a lot compared to Oklahoma.  Pasture is 
> $10/acre, and farmland $20 to $35/acre....  I am sitting on 80 acres 
> here, right next to me on the West the 80 Sold for $5K/acre.  If I 
> sold, I would have to move and then pay the Guvmint most of it....  It 
> took way too long to build those buildings to start over...  However, 
> it is getting so crowded that we cannot get any farm ground to grow 
> hay on.  Thses City folks move out here and some have 25 to 40 acres.  
> They want it mowed 5 times a year when they rent it to us for hay!!!  
> Then they want it looking like a golf course over the winter.  Nothing 
> to catch the blowing snow....
> Cecil
>
> On 12/11/2019 10:04 PM, Mike M wrote:
>> Why would anyone do something so stupid? 200 acres would command almost
>> $40,000 per year in rent for your heirs. You'd really be screwing 
>> them over.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On 12/11/2019 10:46 PM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
>>> In our township they passed an ordnance that requires you to have a 
>>> minimum of 10 acres in order to build, unless the property was 
>>> smaller than that prior to the passing of the ordnance. If it was, 
>>> you can build on it. This was done to keep developers from coming in 
>>> and cramming 20 Houses on a 10 acre parcel.
>>>
>>> In addition, here in Michigan, the local power utility has (had???) 
>>> a program to slow down urban sprawl and keep the power consumption 
>>> from getting out of hand. If you have a large parcel of land that 
>>> you are not farming, you can put that land into a land bank with the 
>>> utility. They will plant the property with trees and you agree not 
>>> to do any development on the property for something like the next 50 
>>> or 100 years. Your heirs would be legally bound by this agreement. 
>>> Don’t know how taxes are handled. If I remember right, you need 
>>> something like 100 acres to participate.
>>>
>>> Can’t say how successful they’ve been with this to date.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 17:13:25 -0500 (EST)
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT stamping press pits
>>>
>>> Hi Farmer,
>>> I live in Michigan, and here, provided the farm has been in existence
>>> long enough, you can have it declared a Centennial Farm. What it boils
>>> down to is it can be sold, but must remain in farming of some sort, and
>>> not made into a subdivision. There are also tax incentives if I'm not
>>> mistaken.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On 12/11/2019 5:00 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>>> I have done my share of "temporary" installations that may have been a
>>>> little shaky as is common for old school farmers but my general plan
>>>> most of my life has been to do things "code +" or to be more
>>>> technical, "Hell for stout"...  😀
>>>> I do find myself being less concerned these days about making sure
>>>> that what I do will last 100 years. I'm still optimistic enough to
>>>> pretend that I still need a 5 year plan but my old concept of a 20
>>>> year plan doesn't carry a lot of weight.
>>>> There are several reasons for that. The first is pretty obvious, one
>>>> of those other reasons is that the farm I put my blood, sweat and
>>>> tears in since 1951, which was a couple of miles out in the country is
>>>> now only about a quarter mile across a creek from a rapidly moving
>>>> city limits... Land around me that I grew up farming either as rented
>>>> land or as custom work is now infested with houses... The chances of
>>>> this place falling victim to the bulldozers just keeps increasing. In
>>>> recent years the words "eminent domain" are getting tossed around more
>>>> and more freely. (shrug)...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:40 AM Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      Service pits are just pits.  Stamping press pits support very
>>>>      large, very heavy equipment that creates high shock and vibration
>>>>      in service, enough to literally shake the ground, hence the
>>>>      recommendation for a soil study.
>>>>
>>>>      SO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:17 AM Aaron Dickinson
>>>>      <a_dickinson at att.net <mailto:a_dickinson at att.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          I supect most service pits are shallow enough to not 
>>>> require a
>>>>          geotechnical report, however any building project’s 
>>>> foundation
>>>>          design (including service pits) is based on soil bearing
>>>>          capacity (at residential level often done by visiual or
>>>>          typical for area). When it doubt build for the lesser 
>>>> bearing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          *From:* James Peck <mailto:jamesgpeck at hotmail.com>
>>>>          *Sent:* ‎Wednesday‎, ‎December‎ ‎11‎, ‎2019 ‎12‎:‎36‎ ‎AM
>>>>          *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>>>          <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>
>>>>          I believe Cecil mentioned he was involved with things
>>>>          geotechnical. This talks about having a geotechnical report
>>>>          before designing a stamping press pit.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.stampingjournal-digital.com/stampingjournal/20191112/MobilePagedReplica.action?pm=1&folio=26#pg26 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          I wonder if such a report is used in designing tractor
>>>>          dealership service shops.
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>>>>
>>>> Francis Robinson
>>>> aka "farmer"
>>>> Central Indiana USA
>>>> robinson46176 at gmail.com <mailto:robinson46176 at gmail.com>
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