[AT] tire brand

[Al Jones]

IIRC when Miller Tire first started offering the Champion Ground Grip, they
specifically mentioned Ford Ns......Needless to say I wasn't amused......

Al

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:26 AM Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I should have mentioned 24" tires in my other post. There are a "lot" of
> small farm tractors running 24" tires Like my Farmall Cub, The Farmall A's
> and B's, my Massey Harris Pony, my Allis C and the B and CA's and whole
> batch of others. Many of these are tractors that their owners are very
> personally attached to and might be more prone to put new rubber on and
> keep them forever.
> There was something else I had forgotten to mention in the first post but
> I seem to have forgotten it again... Oh, well...
>
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> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:03 AM Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> My father had a set of these on his Ford 9N and spent a lot of time
>> cussing them, said he would never buy any again. They were bad at loading
>> up with our waxy clay mud when trying to back out of a wet spot. They were
>> smooth on the road though which would make them good on antique tractors
>> for parades and drives. Then of course they look "proper" on old tractors.
>> As you say, they need to come in more sizes like at least a 12.4 and 13.6
>> and at least the same widths in a 38" tire, and also at about half the
>> current price. $1,100 plus is a lot of money for a set for old tractors
>> that are very rarely earning their keep... Larger sizes would be higher and
>> maybe even exponentially so. Few people want to spend $2,000 getting new
>> tires put on an $1,800 tractor.  :-)
>> I constantly watch consignment auctions for "functional" used tires like
>> Spencer mentioned. Something else I have done several times is buy a rough
>> tractor with a pair of good rears and take them off to use on something
>> that needs them and then sell the donor tractor. One I recall was a Co-op
>> that had been back-flipped in a woods. I bought it for $200, took the rears
>> off and ran them on my Deere A for years and sold the Co-op for a little
>> more than I paid for it. Another one was a rough Allis WC with nearly new
>> rears bought cheap and the tires swapped with a really crappy set on a very
>> good WD I had. I also sold that old WC for a tiny profit. It would have
>> been even better if I could have just switched wheels but you can't have
>> everything. I was a good bit younger then and swapping rears wasn't nearly
>> as much work as it is now.  :-)
>> .
>> Here is a pic from Miller's.
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:43 PM Al Jones <farmallsupera1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There's a reason just about every manufacturer went to 23 degree lugs. I
>>> prefer the look of the old straight 45 degrees though.  Of course what I
>>> really wish is that Firestone would make the old "turkey track" Champion
>>> Ground Grip tires from the late 40s  again!  You can get 10-28 (11-2 28s)
>>> but that's it.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 11:29 PM Brian VanDragt <bvandragt at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have heard, probably on this list, that the 45 degree tread offers
>>>> more sideways ground holding power on a side hill.
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: deanvp <deanvp at att.net>
>>>> Date: 4/8/19 11:12 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <
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>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] tire brand
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>>>> I can only offer my limited experience with the two. The 45 degree lug
>>>> sheds mud better but the 23 degree lug offers slightly better traction
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
>>>> Date: 4/8/19 4:08 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <
>>>> at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] tire brand
>>>>
>>>> What's the difference between 45 and 23 degree, other that the obvious?
>>>>
>>>> Mike M
>>>>
>>>> On 4/8/2019 6:08 PM, John Hall wrote:
>>>> > OK here is the latest. Getting rims local, about the same price as you
>>>> > can get anywhere on the net by the time I add shipping---plus I need
>>>> > them NOW.
>>>> >
>>>> > Talked to 2 tire shops. Leaning toward the closest one. I'll have them
>>>> > mount the tires on the new rims. I'll then put them on the tractor and
>>>> > add fluid. Leaning toward a Carlisle--I had no idea they made any
>>>> > thing besides lawn mower tires. These tires will be a 45 deg angle,
>>>> > not 23. Replacing a set of multi-angle Safemark. The other option is
>>>> > tires made by Galaxy.
>>>> >
>>>> > John Hall
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 4/7/2019 5:45 PM, John Hall wrote:
>>>> >> Looks like I have to buy 2 rear tires in a hurry. Anybody bought a
>>>> >> particular brand the in the last few years that you are happy with?
>>>> >> The cheaper the better--got to buy 2 rims as well. Rims made it 47
>>>> >> years and have stress cracks, the tires are 60-70% tread, but at 28
>>>> >> years old they have dry rotted.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> John Hall
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