[AT] [External] Re: tire brand

Gunnells, Brad R brad-gunnells at uiowa.edu
Wed Apr 10 08:02:13 PDT 2019


Well Spencer, you know once that donor tractor rolls in you’ll start to taking a liking to it….and well we all know how it goes from there……     ☺

Brad

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Date: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 9:52 AM
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Subject: [External] Re: [AT] tire brand

The donor tractor thing is something I have been angling towards. Alice Chalmers WD 45s, and some WC‘s, use the same size tires as my Ford. They seem to be plentiful and fairly cheap in this area. So I am hoping to do a donor swap too if a used set never show up.


Spencer Yost

On Apr 10, 2019, at 10:03 AM, Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com<mailto:robinson46176 at gmail.com>> wrote:
My father had a set of these on his Ford 9N and spent a lot of time cussing them, said he would never buy any again. They were bad at loading up with our waxy clay mud when trying to back out of a wet spot. They were smooth on the road though which would make them good on antique tractors for parades and drives. Then of course they look "proper" on old tractors. As you say, they need to come in more sizes like at least a 12.4 and 13.6 and at least the same widths in a 38" tire, and also at about half the current price. $1,100 plus is a lot of money for a set for old tractors that are very rarely earning their keep... Larger sizes would be higher and maybe even exponentially so. Few people want to spend $2,000 getting new tires put on an $1,800 tractor.  :-)
I constantly watch consignment auctions for "functional" used tires like Spencer mentioned. Something else I have done several times is buy a rough tractor with a pair of good rears and take them off to use on something that needs them and then sell the donor tractor. One I recall was a Co-op that had been back-flipped in a woods. I bought it for $200, took the rears off and ran them on my Deere A for years and sold the Co-op for a little more than I paid for it. Another one was a rough Allis WC with nearly new rears bought cheap and the tires swapped with a really crappy set on a very good WD I had. I also sold that old WC for a tiny profit. It would have been even better if I could have just switched wheels but you can't have everything. I was a good bit younger then and swapping rears wasn't nearly as much work as it is now.  :-)
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Here is a pic from Miller's.
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On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:43 PM Al Jones <farmallsupera1 at gmail.com<mailto:farmallsupera1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
There's a reason just about every manufacturer went to 23 degree lugs. I prefer the look of the old straight 45 degrees though.  Of course what I really wish is that Firestone would make the old "turkey track" Champion Ground Grip tires from the late 40s  again!  You can get 10-28 (11-2 28s) but that's it.

Al

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 11:29 PM Brian VanDragt <bvandragt at comcast.net<mailto:bvandragt at comcast.net>> wrote:
I have heard, probably on this list, that the 45 degree tread offers more sideways ground holding power on a side hill.
Brian

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From: deanvp <deanvp at att.net<mailto:deanvp at att.net>>
Date: 4/8/19 11:12 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: [AT] tire brand

I can only offer my limited experience with the two. The 45 degree lug sheds mud better but the 23 degree lug offers slightly better traction



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From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com<mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>
Date: 4/8/19 4:08 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com<mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
Subject: Re: [AT] tire brand

What's the difference between 45 and 23 degree, other that the obvious?

Mike M

On 4/8/2019 6:08 PM, John Hall wrote:
> OK here is the latest. Getting rims local, about the same price as you
> can get anywhere on the net by the time I add shipping---plus I need
> them NOW.
>
> Talked to 2 tire shops. Leaning toward the closest one. I'll have them
> mount the tires on the new rims. I'll then put them on the tractor and
> add fluid. Leaning toward a Carlisle--I had no idea they made any
> thing besides lawn mower tires. These tires will be a 45 deg angle,
> not 23. Replacing a set of multi-angle Safemark. The other option is
> tires made by Galaxy.
>
> John Hall
>
>
> On 4/7/2019 5:45 PM, John Hall wrote:
>> Looks like I have to buy 2 rear tires in a hurry. Anybody bought a
>> particular brand the in the last few years that you are happy with?
>> The cheaper the better--got to buy 2 rims as well. Rims made it 47
>> years and have stress cracks, the tires are 60-70% tread, but at 28
>> years old they have dry rotted.
>>
>> John Hall
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